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Geoffg

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Posted: 02:19pm 26 May 2014
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Sometimes you do not realise how clunky a treasured piece of technology is until it is pointed out by someone who is new to it. In this hilarious video kids who were brought up on the smartphone are asked to operate an Apple II from the 70's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7EpEnglgk

They even have trouble turning it on, "very tedious" says one. "Where are the apps?" asks another. And their reaction to a floppy disk?... well you will just have to watch it.

What made this even more poignant is that the Maximite emulates these same computers from the 70's.

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Posted: 04:23pm 26 May 2014
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We are spoilt today, but who knows what we will have in another 40 years. Will there be a day when our computers have a direct interface to our brains?
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Posted: 04:37pm 26 May 2014
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Laugh or cry? This is the question...

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bigmik

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Posted: 05:00pm 26 May 2014
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Geoff,

That was very entertaining..

Now I ask the question...

Why are we trying to `emulate' these if kids dont like them?

Of course us older kids do... that's why.

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Grogster

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Posted: 05:32pm 26 May 2014
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There is an excellent series called ELECTRIC DREAMS on YouTube, where a family is stiprred of all their modern appliances, and have their house converted to 70's 80's and 90's era's and have to see how they cope.

Madness is right we are spoilt for choice these days.

ELECTRIC DREAMS - Part 1

ELECTRIC DREAMS - Part 2

ELECTRIC DREAMS - Part 3
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MicroBlocks

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Posted: 06:41pm 26 May 2014
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I see the same response with older people. :)

The uMite gets the same treatment, until i connect a solid state relay to switch on a fan and a servo to direct the airflow. :)
Then the interest starts. When i then change the direction with a keystroke (IR will be next) then i hear minds blowing.
When i show the code, the realization sets in that they could make that too.

I did something similar on my old trs-80 model 1 a long long time ago with just a few 74xx chips also in basic. Difference is that now it can be done for a few dollars and with much less electronics. Kids love servos, unfortunately not easy to control movements.



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bigmik

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Posted: 06:52pm 26 May 2014
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Hi Tz,

  TZAdvantage said  
The uMite gets the same treatment, until i connect a solid state relay to switch on a fan and a servo to direct the airflow. :)


I know what you mean, I have told a lot of my friends and they ALL say "What can you do with it?" and as I try to give a million ideas of what it CAN do they usually roll their eyes. Then I ask them "What can you do with a pencil and paper" then they usually start to understand a bit..

Mick
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JohnS
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Posted: 02:18am 27 May 2014
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Isn't it great how far we've come in so short a time!

Imagine taking someone from 200 years ago and telling them we go places using cars. "Where's the horse? Where are the reins?"

There again, giving someone Windows results in "Why is it so inconsistent? Why does it keep freezing and crashing? What's all that anti-virus stuff? Why is it needed?"

JohnEdited by JohnS 2014-05-28
 
vasi

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Posted: 02:52am 27 May 2014
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Some time ago I talked with a Romanian engineer (researcher) about Maximite. He was pleasantly surprised (because he is a senior, like us) but he is a hardware guy and a very practical one. So, he didn't understood the motivation behind Maximite apart of using it as a hobby... then he realized:
"The seniors played with those before... so this must be it, the smell of youth."

Joking a little, Maximite means nothing for children, unless it come with a FT800 interface and tokens like iOS application icons as a starting screen. Then you can immerse them into BASIC. Or it isn't a joke ...
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vasi

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Posted: 03:35am 27 May 2014
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I watched the movie. Now I know how children will react to Maximite!
  Quote  You guys are crazy!

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psergiu

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Posted: 06:52am 27 May 2014
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Watch the end of the movie, when they ask the kids if thy want such a computer.
One of them says "yes".
That's a potential Maximite user :)
 
vasi

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Posted: 07:20am 27 May 2014
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Back in the '80, there we had z80 based personal computers "amic", "PRAE", "HC85", "Cobra", and other romanian computers available in Clubs but very few children were there (only the smartest I will say). The majority had other activities (looking at those as freaks).

The situation started to change before '94 (at least, in Romania) with IBM-PC with CGA cards and a lot of games. More and more children wanted a PC for games. The numbers increased as graphical capabilities and operability evolved. This is the truth and I don't think the situation will change.
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vasi

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Posted: 09:10pm 27 May 2014
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bigmik

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Posted: 09:11pm 27 May 2014
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Vasi,

Love it.

Mick
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donmck

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Posted: 07:59pm 28 May 2014
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  bigmik said   Vasi,

Love it.

Mick


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Bryan1

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Posted: 12:55am 29 May 2014
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Well I had a chat with the young guys at work today and told them about the maximite and uMite and got some interest from a couple of them. So looks like a couple to few more guys will soon be hooked......
 
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