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| Tim036 Newbie  Joined: 25/11/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 17 |
Well I've downloaded it and unpacked it, but I've no idea what to do next. Do I get it running from Bash ? If so how ? Any tips greatly appreciated ! (Complete Newbie on this) Many thanks, Tim |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru  Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2794 |
Hi Tim, Welcome to the BSF - good to see you here. When you say 'Complete Newbie' - do you mean to Linux or to MMBasic (or both)? Hopefully you've received the 28-pin MicroMite and are looking to do something with it? Can I personally suggest using TeraTerm (Windows platform) first. You will need a USB-to-Serial convertor to connect the MicroMite to TeraTerm (and a 10uF cap across pins 19 & 20). Follow the simple procedure in the User Manual to get a response in TeraTerm (I loaded a self-running Welcome message/program which you should see). If you get to see the Welcome message then you need to press Ctrl-C to stop execution (this returns you to the command prompt). Then download MMEdit for Windows and have a quick play with that in Windows - nice and straight forward. If however you are totally anti-Windows then I'm afraid you'll have to wait for someone else to chime in - I'm no expert when it comes to Linux - sorry . . . Phil For everything Micromite visit micromite.org Direct Email: whitewizzard@micromite.o |
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| Tim036 Newbie Joined: 25/11/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 17 |
Linux I'm ok with but I'm a newbie with MicroMite and MMEdit. I'd prefer not to touch Windows. So I hope one of the members is a Linux Guru. I'm very excited about trying this out as I used to use Picaxe a lot. (a few years ago) Many thanks for responding. : ))) Tim |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2794 |
Hopefully TassyJim will be able to give you some expert guidance with MMEdit within Linux 
For everything Micromite visit micromite.org Direct Email: whitewizzard@micromite.o |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5905 |
I assume you are talking about MMEdit2 which is a beta version and missing a lot of the recent features that MMEdit has. After you have extracted it, use your file manager to locate the executable file MMedit and click on it. You can also create a desktop shortcut for the executable but how you do that depends on your choice of file manager. You may find that there are dependencies missing, depending on your installation. I know very little about the numerous versions of Linux so I cannot be specific. My recommendation is to download the Windows version of MMEdit and run it under Wine. If you have problems with the serial ports under Wine, install ser2net and use the TCPIP option in MMEdit to connect to localhost. I find that way easier. Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
I would try MiniCom if you have any problems with TassyJims suggestion. (I myself could not get MMEdit to work with Wine) http://linux.die.net/man/1/minicom |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9063 |
Indeed. My first love in the microcontrollers was also PICAXE. But then along came this Micromite blonde with blue eyes and extra features....
Good to see you here - welcome, and please do post any/all problems - members here are very helpful. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| Tim036 Newbie Joined: 25/11/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 17 |
I've got Cutecom and Minicom both working fine. I think I'll leave MMEdit alone until its fully cooked, (I'll try it but be too disappointed if nothing happens)(Update. clicking on the icon does not result in any action) Never tried Wine. Many many thanks for the tips ! A very happy Tim after finding this very supportive Forum ! Brill ! : )))) Tim |
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G8JCF Guru Joined: 15/05/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 676 |
I know it grates, and at the risk of starting a LINUX vs Windows war, why not create a VMWare Virtual Machine on your LINUX machine, and then install Windows XP into the VM. A licensed copy of XP is dirt cheap these days - GBP 10 from http://www.os-operating-system.com/en/Operating-Systems/ . This way you can when you absolutely need to dip into Windows whilst keeping your main workhorse LINUX environment safe and sound. Just a thought. 
Peter The only Konstant is Change |
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
> why not create a VMWare Virtual Machine on your LINUX machine, > and then install Windows XP into the VM. (Just in Fun) And then install Virtual Box on the XP and another Linux on top of that ! ..... You'd really have something 
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| G8JCF Guru Joined: 15/05/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 676 |
@hitsware recursion rules KO The only Konstant is Change |
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| TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5905 |
Are you running 32 or 64 bit Linux? I only have a PC suitable for 32 bit so that is the only option. I don't know how well 64 bit Linux handles 32 bit programs. Provided it was extracted to a location that permits running from, the only other thing to check is the permissions of MMedit2. In my case it is runable without any need to change anything. The system I use is running Kubuntu 14.04 32 bit Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3659 |
It doesn't just grate, it's a serious pain. It's better than having both legs cut off but still rather like having one cut off. You get (nearly) all the usual headaches of Windows and few gains. I'd rather keep my legs (aka sanity). WINE is preferable, more akin to having just one toe cut off. Still not the best. A normal Linux program is what's wanted. I've run 32-bit ones on 64-bit Linux generally without problems. John |
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| G8JCF Guru Joined: 15/05/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 676 |
Long John Silver  springs to mind.
Sorry JohnS, couldn't resist it 
Peter The only Konstant is Change |
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| TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5905 |
I agree, Wine should work without having to go the Virtual machine way. Apart from slow serial ports which is resolved by using ser2net and TCPIP, Wine has worked reliably for me. I would really like to know why MMEdit2 is not even trying to run for Tim. It makes thinks difficult to debug when there is no error message at all. Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3659 |
Re-reading his few posts more carefully, I think he's quite likely not ever actually tried to run it. To over-abbreviate: he asks how, doesn't get told, says he'll leave it alone. (I think he should not (again) be recommended to use any that's an EXE.) John |
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
He seems to have the same response I have (IIRC) MMedit2.tar.gz unpacks to MMedit2.tar MMedit2.tar unpacks to MMedit2.xzm (.xzm is equivalent to .exe for my distro) clicking MMedit2.xzm reports MMedit2 is running, (activated), but there is no sign of it
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3659 |
Er... what? I untar'ed the .tar.gz and didn't get such a file. I got a normal Linux executable (details below) and it runs (badly) as one. John --- When I list what's in the .tar.gz with: tar tvzf MMedit2.tar.gz I get lots of files including MMedit2/MMEdit2 and when extracted if I enquire about that using: file MMedit2/MMEdit2 I get: MMedit2/MMEdit2: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x5924eb0f69a4a40c5ef7f45a19304e4625b062c6, stripped |
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| TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5905 |
You should be getting the results that JohnS is getting. It should unpack to a folder with: MMedit2 - the executable portable.inf - a text file used to indicate the data folder is in the working directory Data - a subfolder with the required support files. Being a 'Windows person' I use a GUI unpacking program and GUI file manager Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
I can't get your site now. I'll redownload and try again and keep better track of the results when it comes back. |
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