Home  |  Contents 

Microcontroller and PC projects
  Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects         Section
Subject Topic: Raspberries... Post ReplyPost New Topic
Page of 4 Next >>
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
crackerjack
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 11 July 2011
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 164
Posted: 02 March 2012 at 8:19am | IP Logged Quote crackerjack

For those who may be interested, the Raspberry Pi (of which there has been much talk, and a fair amount of hype), went on sale today...

See http://www.raspberrypi.org/ for details.

For those who don't know what it is, you can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Cheers...


Back to Top View crackerjack's Profile Search for other posts by crackerjack
 
djuqa
Guru
Guru
Avatar

Joined: 23 November 2011
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 443
Posted: 02 March 2012 at 8:23am | IP Logged Quote djuqa

And for those of you that haven't heard the news, they sold out within a couple hours.
CRN.com.au wrote:
RS Components and Premier Farnell, the licensed manufacturers, sold out of the Raspberry Pi within hours of its release – so you'll have to be patient while the team gets the next batch together.

Although further stocks arriving SOON.


Edited by djuqa on 02 March 2012 at 8:42am


__________________
VK4MU MicroController Units

Back to Top View djuqa's Profile Search for other posts by djuqa Visit djuqa's Homepage
 
Gizmo
Admin Group
Admin Group
Avatar
Administrator

Joined: 05 June 2004
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4601
Posted: 02 March 2012 at 8:55am | IP Logged Quote Gizmo

Wow. These things just keep getting better. The raspberrypi web page is lacking, but the wiki fills in the gaps.

Glenn

__________________
"If it dont fit, use a bigger hammer."

The Back Shed
JAQ Software
Back to Top View Gizmo's Profile Search for other posts by Gizmo Visit Gizmo's Homepage
 
vasi
Guru
Guru
Avatar

Joined: 23 March 2007
Location: Romania
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1697
Posted: 02 March 2012 at 11:14am | IP Logged Quote vasi

Raspberry Pi demands crashes website

And "The Raspberry Pi is available at either Premier Farnell or RS Components.

Note: both websites are currently experiencing heavy load, and international customers may find that Raspberry Pi is not available yet in their territory. Please be patient, and consider checking back in a few hours' time."

__________________
Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton
Elvish name: Mablung Miriel
Beyound Arduino Lang
Back to Top View vasi's Profile Search for other posts by vasi Visit vasi's Homepage
 
JohnS
Guru
Guru


Joined: 18 November 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1698
Posted: 02 March 2012 at 6:23pm | IP Logged Quote JohnS

Looks like about a 2 month lead time if you've not already got a confirmed date.

Seems to be that no actual deliveries at element14/Farnell or RS have yet occurred.

More hype than pie?

John
Back to Top View JohnS's Profile Search for other posts by JohnS
 
Olimex
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 02 October 2011
Location: Bulgaria
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 226
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 3:48am | IP Logged Quote Olimex

djuqa wrote:
And for those of you that haven't heard the news, they sold out within a couple hours.


I do not believe this, this is what is written on their web page:

Although we are still waiting for units to arrive from China, you can start buying the Raspberry Pi today.


so they never ran this 10K batch, and now you can pre-order from Farnell and RS-Components and wait 60 days, hoping that they will finally manage to arrange the manufacturing.

it's pity as it all seems now to look like cheap advertising for Broadcom for their processor. (the man behind this project - Mr. Raspberry Pi is working for Broadcom)

They said they will produce complete linux computer with HDMI for $25, but they obviously have no any manufacturing background nor they every did production in any scale, and 10K unit production is not so easy as they think.
It was really funny to read on their forum how they intend to manufacture the boards in UK but the "import taxes" were holding them off, to build just tester for such board which to load the linux image and do the functional test for series of 10K pcs will cost about 200K GBP so they will not fit in their budged just to test the boards in UK.

$25 is the Arduino board price tag, releasing board with 256MB RAM and ARM on 700 Mhz at this price have no business logic/background - this you can achieve for board with 8bit micro or you have to not include re-seller margin and to work on really tight budged. I don't say this is not possible, there are Bit-tornet loaders on Deal Extreme for $30 which run linux but there the processor is smaller and with no HDMI, so if the chinese can't do it for $25 I don't see how UK based company will arrange the production.

The board which came close to these specs is the BeagleBone for $89 which TI sells to selected developers at cost for $50-60

Raspberry PI so far just makes press releases and sold few boards for 1000 GBP each on e-bay, they had to release this 10K batch in December, January, February, end of February and now it looks like the earliest release date through Farnell is April .. 1st

I really wanted to buy one at Embedded but had no chance.

To add on top of this the closed source code for the Broadcom processor, this board will have never mainstream linux support like Beagle and other boards which are with completely open source drivers.
Back to Top View Olimex's Profile Search for other posts by Olimex
 
vasi
Guru
Guru
Avatar

Joined: 23 March 2007
Location: Romania
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1697
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 4:31am | IP Logged Quote vasi

The price is so unreal!
OpenPandora is a better unit but, unfortunately, hard to build.

__________________
Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton
Elvish name: Mablung Miriel
Beyound Arduino Lang
Back to Top View vasi's Profile Search for other posts by vasi Visit vasi's Homepage
 
JohnS
Guru
Guru


Joined: 18 November 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1698
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 4:43am | IP Logged Quote JohnS

hmm, I think they will actually have to make and sell them at that price as Farnell wouldn't be likely to take orders otherwise.

The part about manufacture and import taxes, sadly, is true over here. Makes no sense, but then many taxes make no sense.

John
Back to Top View JohnS's Profile Search for other posts by JohnS
 
vasi
Guru
Guru
Avatar

Joined: 23 March 2007
Location: Romania
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1697
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 5:31am | IP Logged Quote vasi

Actually, they have no(t enough) money! So, they need to sell before. To do that (to put pressure on the buyer), you just have to change your web page from dynamic to static . Then, when money are enough, they will pay the Chinese.
It is so similar to another board...

--------------------
Actually, this model of pre-ordering is used with success by the Blender Foundation when they intend to make tutorials on DVDs or open movies. But they do not depend on third party organizations to have their job done. They have full support from their community but also they get money from donations, sponsorship and other activities.

Edited by vasi on 03 March 2012 at 6:40am


__________________
Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton
Elvish name: Mablung Miriel
Beyound Arduino Lang
Back to Top View vasi's Profile Search for other posts by vasi Visit vasi's Homepage
 
Olimex
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 02 October 2011
Location: Bulgaria
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 226
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 7:16am | IP Logged Quote Olimex

JohnS wrote:
hmm, I think they will actually have to make and sell them at that price as Farnell wouldn't be likely to take orders otherwise.


I can bet that there will be no $25 with the specs they anounced first!

We all saw how the $25 linux computer transformed to $35 linux computer now Farnell and RS component keep this price tag, but when you attempt to order you got $20 "handling" charge which is add to your order, so it become $55 without the shipping, so again very close to the BeagleBone price :)

the $25 price is not realistic and they used this shocking low price anouncement just to get in all news
Back to Top View Olimex's Profile Search for other posts by Olimex
 
djuqa
Guru
Guru
Avatar

Joined: 23 November 2011
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 443
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 7:50am | IP Logged Quote djuqa

It sounds like a lot of "Pi in the Sky"
I think price will rapidly change.
Too many projects have come un-stuck because of the reality of margins over the cost of components and manufacturing.




__________________
VK4MU MicroController Units

Back to Top View djuqa's Profile Search for other posts by djuqa Visit djuqa's Homepage
 
JohnS
Guru
Guru


Joined: 18 November 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1698
Posted: 03 March 2012 at 7:57am | IP Logged Quote JohnS

They're offering the Model B which they said would be $35.

I've not seen Farnell charge $20 handling fee, and people on a Linux list here weren't saying that Farnell are - so I reckon that's not happening.

The big issue for many people is that there's yet more delay.

John
Back to Top View JohnS's Profile Search for other posts by JohnS
 


Page of 4 Next >>
In the news...
 
Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by Web Wiz Forums version 7.8
Copyright ©2001-2004 Web Wiz Guide

This page was generated in 0.1230 seconds.
Privacy Policy     Process times : 0, 0.01, 0, 0.11