PM Standard - HW Watchdog issue...


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Mixtel90

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Posted: 07:15am 09 Oct 2025      

This would be nice as a little 4-pin module with 0.1in pin spacing. It could be dropped into a breadboard or put onto a PCB, horizontal or vertical - rather like a T220 package. Bonus points for castellated connections. :)

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Posted: 07:17am 09 Oct 2025      

Hi Grogster,

There is sufficient board area to rotate C1 by 90 degrees and use a larger footprint.
It may be easier to get a 1206 10uF ceramic cap. But in case you need longer times (22uF) it is definitely advised to increase the footprint size.

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Volhout

Mixtel90

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Posted: 07:19am 09 Oct 2025      

2x 10uF with a solder blob to parallel them.  :)

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Posted: 07:28am 09 Oct 2025      

@ Mick: The solder-pads are on a standard 2.54mm grid, so I could EASILY just add some holes on the pad-centers, then you could have either-or.  

Other changes noted, will do.

@ Volhout: Can I assume you have actually built this circuit?  It looks electronically sound, but it would be nice to know it has been tested, before I get boards made.  

@ Mick & Volhout & everyone else: I will make the C1 footprint 0805/1206, so you can choose whatever works for you.  





EDIT: Here you go...






Edited 2025-10-09 17:55 by Grogster

Volhout
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Posted: 08:14am 09 Oct 2025      

Hi Grogster,

Yes, I have this running. I was afraid of side effects (the rightmost mosfet is used as an analog comparator with limited gain, so the RUN pin would experience a slow ramp (not a sharp edge). I needed to make sure the pico would behave nicely (reset reliable) on this slow ramp. So I tested it for several hours before publishing the schematics. Used BSS123 for the 2N7002's since these where available. The SOT23's look so tiny compared to the .25W through hole resistors and the tantalum capacitor.



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Volhout
Edited 2025-10-09 18:21 by Volhout

Mixtel90

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Posted: 10:03am 09 Oct 2025      

It should be illegal to make mosfets that tiny.....   :(

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Posted: 09:40pm 09 Oct 2025      

@ Volhout: Excellent, thanks.  I was pretty sure you would have tested it before publishing the circuit, but some circuits are posted as "In theory, this should work" kind of thing, so I just wanted to be sure.

I will get some PCB's made with my next order, and if anyone is interested in these, respond here, and I will start a new thread, with reference to this thread, with the Gerbers etc, so people can get their own ones made if they want.  In the public release, I will remove my www reference on the bottom silkscreen.
Edited 2025-10-10 07:40 by Grogster

lizby
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Posted: 01:04pm 21 Oct 2025      

  Grogster said  I will get some PCB's made with my next order


Any progress to report on this watchdog PCB? Following with interest.

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Posted: 10:39pm 23 Oct 2025      

Yes, I have them, I just have to build one to play with, and take some photos and upload them here.  Yesterday in NZ, we had a major storm that caused huge amounts of damage and cut power in a plethora of places, and I have been resetting systems and settling down upset things that have lost their power for the last day or so, but I hope to get a chance to build one of these this weekend.

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Posted: 04:55am 31 Oct 2025      

Assembled one, but have not tested it yet.  Hopefully over the weekend.