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Grogster

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This is excellent.....

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CaptainBoing

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yep. very good.
 
Davo99
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While obviously satire, it is scarily close to what I have been told by My wife and friends whom are managers in the way some of the younger ones act and their outlook.

Just this week my 5ft nothing wife was accused by a 23yo 6ft6 Fitness junkie guy of intimidating and making him feel harassed.
 
Apparently both the HR person whom knows her well and her boss laughed when they heard the accusations but of course had to take them seriously.
The upshot was when interviewed, the guy did not like being asked by my wife privately with no one else around was everything OK as he has barely shown up on time in the 6 weeks he has been there and felt my wifes asking him if there was a problem was an invasion of his privacy and made him felt threatened.  
I'm not kidding.

HR lady had to sit with him ( and a support person) and explain that it was a requirement of his employment that he was there at the appointed start time every day.
Apparently he expressed he was not entirely comfortable with this Condition  being " forced" on him and felt it was pressuring him.  

The guy is on a 3 month trial. My wife was the decision maker if they kept him on or not being his immediate supervisor. She excused herself from the the decision in light of the accusation.

The HR person and her boss said no problem, he's gone anyway.

I am greatly hoping an upshot of the China flu is the dispensing with all this Touchy feely, PC Bullsh*t and everyone is forced to take a big dose of harden the Fk up and get back to a position of basic sanity.
 
SimpleSafeName

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I think that I can trace her family tree back to this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncbEucjsNFU
 
windman1000
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the ask seria<= not sure of the spelling cracked me up.
im a industrial machine tech a really old 1 my legs, my back,  my muscles, my eyes and my memory is going.
i was on a job last week and the in house maintenance employee ask me a technical question and i told him that im not sure how to give him the answer, he then pick his phone up and ask seria the same question and seria gave him the answer he look at me and ask what did that mean , i look at him and told him to ask seria.

i should of mention that this same guy asks a million questions and talk talk talk every time i go there and i cant get my work done quickly.
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Grogster

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  Davo99 said  The upshot was when interviewed, the guy did not like being asked by my wife privately with no one else around was everything OK as he has barely shown up on time in the 6 weeks he has been there and felt my wifes asking him if there was a problem was an invasion of his privacy and made him felt threatened.  
I'm not kidding.

HR lady had to sit with him ( and a support person) and explain that it was a requirement of his employment that he was there at the appointed start time every day.
Apparently he expressed he was not entirely comfortable with this Condition  being " forced" on him and felt it was pressuring him.  

The guy is on a 3 month trial. My wife was the decision maker if they kept him on or not being his immediate supervisor. She excused herself from the the decision in light of the accusation.

The HR person and her boss said no problem, he's gone anyway.

I am greatly hoping an upshot of the China flu is the dispensing with all this Touchy feely, PC Bullsh*t and everyone is forced to take a big dose of harden the Fk up and get back to a position of basic sanity.


Yeah, the entitled crowd I think, are in for a SERIOUS wake-up call when the economy gets going again, because NONE of that crap is going to matter to bosses who are trying to get their businesses going again.  I totally agree with your post, and the story you told is rather jaw-dropping.  I completely believe it though.  The very fact that we have to deal with this kind of softie at all, is an insult to anyone who calls themselves a manager.  Genuine complaints etc - that's fine, but this new-age softie crap....  You can't get things done with employees who are soft like that.  Thankfully, there will be MILLIONS of people all over the world who would just love a job again AND still have a work ethic, so they will get the jobs, and the softies will go back to crying on Twatter.

That little video was very well acted though, which is what made it so funny - in a disturbing kind of way.
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  Grogster said  

Yeah, the entitled crowd I think, are in for a SERIOUS wake-up call when the economy gets going again, because NONE of that crap is going to matter to bosses who are trying to get their businesses going again.


I used to hear things like this entitlement and see all the PC crap going on and think to myself, when and how will all this end? It cannot continue.  Well the world has had a big Cough and I believe this will bring about the end of it all at least for some time. I think we had things too good and there were too many Fake causes and other things created to give us worries we didn't have.

Now there will be real worries, I think we will rewind 20,30, ?, years to when people had a bit of personal responsibility and honour and no one is going to give a rats arse if some little Snowflakes feelings are hurt.
There will simply be bigger and far more important issues to deal with and a lot of the precious types are going to have to learn to sink or swim.
For so many now this will be a huge and hard slap in the face with a shovel.

I find it amusing and reassuring that even my own 23 Yo daughter and her friends often complain about these precious types. They get hired at her work and straight off carry on about what they will and won't do and how things are going to have to change ( in effect to suit them)and how they don't want to do the work they are hired to do.  Daughter may be a bit too much of chip off the old block and being a top performer at what she does has been given an unofficial management position by her switched on boss. I think he uses her ( in the right way) to kick the backside of these other snowflakes arses without putting his own head on the chopping block.

It's more than clear he has her back, even she says she is the golden child, but she can get away with telling them as a 1:1 employee what they could have the managers proverbials for as a male in a Superior position "intimidating " them. Has has already said to her in not so many words, if she does something wrong his only course of action is to council her which he will do. We both agree being the kind of guy he is, that will probably constitute a long lunch and a chat about where she wants to go for her next OS Holiday. He is a younger guy that has risen through the ranks and was obviously brought up with old fashioned values and a get the job done attitude which he has done well.


  Quote   The very fact that we have to deal with this kind of softie at all, is an insult to anyone who calls themselves a manager.


Because there was a complaint, my wife had to have a meeting with HR as well.
They told her they found nothing wrong, on the evidence of the complainant himself she had done everything right and the only issue they could find was the employee didn't like being asked about something my wife was well entitled to ask him about.

When you get big hulking blokes ( fresh out of uni of course) that go on like this, it's a real worry. My wife can't intimidate any one except me and occasionally the dog.


 
  Quote  Genuine complaints etc - that's fine, but this new-age softie crap....  You can't get things done with employees who are soft like that.


So many these days want to dictate what they will and won't do to bosses, just like the princess in the Vid. The clip was not far if at all from reality.

And then of course these types go round complaining there are no jobs available.

When I was a Kid, I went for an interview for a casual job packing shelves in the supermarket in a shirt and tie and my best pants and made sure my shoes were polished. Mate says now they often don't even wear proper shoes for an office job interview he conducts and come like they have been working in the back yard.


 
  Quote  Thankfully, there will be MILLIONS of people all over the world who would just love a job again AND still have a work ethic, so they will get the jobs, and the softies will go back to crying on Twatter.


Exactly.
They are always their own worst enemies but put the blame on everyone else. Always complain about and pick everyone else's faults but never even have the thought to look at themselves let alone consider they may not be perfect.

There is a lot they don't learn these days but so many seem to have doctorates in self entitlement and importance.



  Quote  That little video was very well acted though, which is what made it so funny - in a disturbing kind of way.


I have always said the best lies and the Funniest jokes contain as much truth as possible and that was a perfect example.  
I bet if you got a decent group of people together that have done interviews, between them you could find that everything in that vid had been said to someone.


I well remember this Kid I hired once. Only worked for me for 5 Months.
First person that turned up for the interview and I wanted to hire her on the spot. Just something about her and it wasn't looks.
The business manager I worked with happened to ring me towards the end of her interview and when I said I was going to hire her, I was told No, can't do that! Have to see who else turns up.  I was paying her enough so I figured I best take  her high priced advise.

I saw about 5 More people whom some Literally didn't know what the job they were applying for was, and thought Fk this, so I rang the girl back and said start Monday. I remember her thanking me profusely and saying she had been to a lot of interviews in the last couple of weeks but that was the job she was really wanting and hoping to get. We were off to a good start.

I got the impression she came from some sort of troubled home. She was a Fantastic worker, Smart and neat like I didn't know existed. I went to her home once  where she lived with her mother and 10 Yo younger brother.  It seemed like a very basic  Housing commission place but by god the place was as neat and perfect as you could imagine! Clearly they didn't have much but not a thing out of place. Neater and cleaner than my home has ever been that's for sure, same as she kept the office. Immaculate.

She did have a thing with being late. More often than on time literally.  She would come in, look stressed and upset but would never take a full lunch break to make up for it. Often I asked her when she was going to lunch and she would say she wasn't and I would tell her to go. She would eat and then be straight back to it.
I never was game to ask her why she was always late, clearly she wasn't happy about it either and the way that kid worked, I wasn't that worried. She Never worried about staying back even when she made it up in her lunch break. So many days I'd say what are you still doing here, Go home.  She was always just finishing something or cleaning.

She was polite, professional, My clients loved her, she constantly amazed me with her problem solving abilities but I always got the impression she was quite sad within herself. Very plain girl, never wore much makeup if any, Clothes always looked a bit old fashioned but always of course clean and neat. She was pretty quiet, happy and positive when spoken to but I always thought had something troubling on her mind.

One day, she just didn't show up. No call, I tried ringing her later, no answer. I went round her house on the 3rd day but no one came to the door. She had a friend that would ring her most days, very briefly, sub 30 sec calls and she rang the first day and I told her she hadn't shown and could she ask her to ring me and let me know what was going on but I never heard from her again either.
Finally I called the cops and asked what I should do and if I needed to report it? They took her details and said they would check everything was OK and that was it.
I Never heard from her or about her again.

I have always wondered what happened to her. We certainly had no problems. I would often give her extra in her pay packet because I felt she earned it. She was always late, took a few sick days but when she was there she was 200%.
Always hoped nothing bad happened to her but then I can't think of anything good that would have explained why she never showed or I never heard from her again.

I sure missed her.  The secretary's I hired after her weren't a pinch on that young kid.
 
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Kinda sad story there, Dave.  

I know women who are mechanics, electronics techs and electricians.
They are all excellent at what they do, but they certainly are not softies!
Strong women in the mostly-male trades like these, are dearly sought after by the men, and pretty much all of them have been hunted to extinction!

...meaning they have all been snapped up by the men pretty quick as wives and girlfriends so a single women in the trade is hard to find!  
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