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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : W10 - KB4284835 Not Updating Solved

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Chopperp

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Posted: 11:10pm 05 Jul 2018
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FYI
One of my W10 PC's would not update KB4284835. Kept coming up with Error code: (0x80073712).

Did lots of Web searches & tried many things etc etc over the past few weeks. Finally last night I came across this shown below from here

  Quote  In the Administrator: Command Prompt window, type the following commands. Press Enter key after each command:
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Scanhealth
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

That worked. I used Windows PowerShell(admin).

Now onto KB4284848 update. Restart required as usual.


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Grogster

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Posted: 11:19pm 05 Jul 2018
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Fing Windows 10.....

I have it on one of my laptops, and I am getting the same error message. It spends every moment it can on the net, trying to redownload that update, and you CAN'T stop it! You can minimize it, but not stop it. So it does it's download, then spits back an error that it can't install the update for some reason. The next time I reboot that machine, W10 tries again with the same result, and you still not being able to stop it.

The problem with W10 as I see it, is the update process. The core W10 OS seems to be OK if the update process leaves it alone. The bloody update process is so complicated and convoluted, that it is essentially another OS in and of itself, running on top of Windows trying to update it. I have never really had much luck with the W10 updating process, and I have used them all from the point MS started having automatic updates. Windows 7 I think was the first?

At least in W7 or 8, you could turn off certain updates, or defer them for later, or turn the updates off completely. W10 forces updates on people as they are compulsory in W10, and all that seems to have done if you ask me(and you didn't) is make matters worse.
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Chopperp

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Posted: 11:28pm 05 Jul 2018
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That's what mine was doing.

It's certainly not right when you have to go searching yourself to find answers to problems that MS itself creates.
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Grogster

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Posted: 11:35pm 05 Jul 2018
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If they just didn't make the updates compulsory, 99% of these problems would be non-issues as you could refuse the update or defer it at least.
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Boppa
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Posted: 12:01am 06 Jul 2018
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Dont have w10 anymore, but can you still do the trick of pretending its on cell data and delaying the updates that way?
(Living in a windowless house and loving every minute of it!)
 
Grogster

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Posted: 12:07am 06 Jul 2018
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I will follow Chopperp's method and hopefully this will fix it for me too, but Gawd.....if this is happening to most people for this W10 update, I might be busy next week fixing it for others!

I use Linux for both my file servers, and my mediaplayer. Some of my important CAD software does not run on Linux, and they are not going to do Linux versions - I have asked them. There is WINE or Virtual-PC I suppose. WINE ruins the performance of the CAD software, but I suppose I could try setting up a VPC in Linux and running Windows inside that, but if you were going to do that, I might as well just run Windows.

My main PC is Windows 8.1 Pro, where I can still control the updates and they are not forced. The W8 machine runs beautifully, and I never have any issues with it.
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Phil23
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Posted: 01:15am 06 Jul 2018
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  Grogster said  My main PC is Windows 8.1 Pro, where I can still control the updates and they are not forced. The W8 machine runs beautifully, and I never have any issues with it.


Cough, plutter, choke. (Sorry )

I could never get comfortable with 8, even with classic shell over the top.
Did war with my only Win8 Laptop a few weeks back; it's & my idea over IP config would just not agree.

Live relatively happily with my Toshiba W10P laptop, but still haven't pushed my W7P desktop sideways, despite the fact that a shiny new W10P box has been sitting beside it since........ Sht, 02/05/18...

My favourite Eyeroll Win10 encounters were the couple of W10P 32 Bit running on 4 Gig i5's...

And unfortunately both relatives that a friend helped upgrade....
 
Phil23
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Posted: 01:18am 06 Jul 2018
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Forgot,

On W10 updates, everyone aware that you can be using bandwidth to dish them out to your neighbours "Bit Stream Style"?
 
Paul_L
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Posted: 03:52am 06 Jul 2018
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I'm running Win10 Pro which permits you to delay updates for months.

I also tell windows that I am on a metered connection. This tells windows that it might cost hundreds of dollars to download a big update and I might decide to sue microsoft if they force me to do it. They managed to bury this setting deep below a series of screens. Here are the hoops you have to jump through to find it.

Settings >> All Settings >> Network & Internet >> Wi-Fi >> Manage known networks >> Click a network name >> Properties >> Set as metered connection ON.

Paul in NY
 
robert.rozee
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Posted: 04:05am 06 Jul 2018
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there are out there a very large number of 'netbook' computers that have been sold over the last few years running win10 with: 32gb onboard flash, 2gb ram, celeron 28x0 or 30x0 processor, and an 11.6" 1366x768 screen. they have absolutely amazing battery life, as the processors used only consume around 4w of power. you can get up to a genuine 10 hours runtime.

BUT, the windows 10 update process kills them. 32gb is insufficient space to perform major updates, and the machines get stuck in a down/update failure loop that very few users can get out of. i've bought a couple of these machines on trademe for $105 and $120 in near-new condition.

with both the machines i've bought (an HP stream 11 and an acer aspire ES-11), i have installed linux mint (xfce), and it works a treat for general web browsing, etc. the hp was an easy install of 32-bit linux, while the acer required quite some tinkering using a bootmanager called rEFInd and 64-bit linux.

for the cost ($105 to $120) it is worth giving mint a try. thankyou microsoft, you're my hero!


cheers,
rob :-)
 
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