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Grogster

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Posted: 08:01am 16 Sep 2018
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This is better then any drama on TV.

17 year-old pilot lands plane with missing right main gear.

What a pilot she is. And so young. I did not think you could go solo at 17?
Out of interest, what are the ages for different countries for going solo?

I realise this is not really 'Microcontroller and PC projects', but I love Avionics.
They are my second love to electronics. The amount of technology in a modern aircraft is amazing - especially the passenger jets. ILS(Instrument Landing System), GPWS(Ground Proximity Warning System), CVR(Cockpit Voice Recorder), FDR(Flight Data Recorder), QAR(Quick Access Recorder), TCAS(Traffic Collision Avoidance System)....to name but a few amazing electronic systems used in most modern aircraft.....
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Malibu
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Posted: 09:21pm 16 Sep 2018
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Amazing Grogs!

Years ago, a relative of mine was so keen on planes that he used to hang onto the fence at the local airport and watch planes take off and land. To cut a long story short, he was there so often that one of the aircraft companies invited him to to do odd jobs around the place with payment being in flying lessons (which he jumped at the chance).
He was 15 yo at the time and had his full licence before he was 17.
The odd thing is, he could fly a plane solo but was too young to get a car licence!
In the end, he signed up for the Navy and flew Skyhawks off HMAS Melbourne (He tried to join the Air Force, but he was too young for that)

Here's another amazing flying story you might find interesting...
Mayday: The passenger who landed a plane

Enjoy
John
 
Bill7300
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Posted: 11:06pm 16 Sep 2018
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Not sure about the PPL in Oz these days,Grogs - although I guess I should be. On an ultralight licence, technically a"certificate" since it is issued by RAAus and not CASA, the government agency, the minimum age is 15. That would enable the 15 year old to pilot an aircraft of up to 600kgs maximum takeoff weight.

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Bill7300
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Posted: 11:33pm 16 Sep 2018
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and having now checked, the mimnimum age to pilot solo in Australia in general aviation is also 15 years. Since we are now supposedly "harmonised" with the international standard, 15 would apply in most countries these days.

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Grogster

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Posted: 01:18am 17 Sep 2018
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Wow, very young to start flying planes. I figured it was probably more likely 18-ish.

I guess once you are up there, it is all very tightly controlled on an aircraft by aircraft basis - unlike the roads, where people kinda do whatever the hell manoeuvres they like at the time, and look out everyone else.

Many pilots have said that the most dangerous part of their journey is the drive to the airport. I can believe that too.

I was impressed with the pilot in this video. With a missing right-main, one wrong move and the plane would dig-in on the right, and could be a case of flip and burn - never a good thing. :(

I was also really impressed with the controller at the tower and the instructors.

As the Hitch-hikers book itself says: "Don't panic!" (but it is bloody hard not to sometimes)

@ Malibu - yes, seen that also, and that also was an amazing landing. Keeping as calm as possible would seem to be the most important thing. But how hard that must be, to keep the reins pulled in on your mind during an event like this!
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Paul_L
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Posted: 06:23am 17 Sep 2018
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@Grogs - In the U.S.

student glider or balloon at 14
student pilot 16
private pilot 17
instrument rating 17 + 50 hours cross country pilot in command + 40 hrs instruction
multi engine 17 + 120 hours cross country PIC + 20 hrs instruction in type
commercial rating 17 + 200 hours cross country PIC IFR
air-transport co-pilot 21 + 1500 hours PIC IFR
ATR pilot in command at 23 years + 4000 hours ATR IFR co pilot

Commercial is needed for any size aircraft with paying passengers or freight.
ATR is needed for multi-engine aircraft carrying more than 19 passengers or a maximum gross takeoff weight greater than 19,000 pounds.

It takes awhile to fly the big things commercially. On the other hand, if you go out and buy your own DC3 you can begin learning on it at 16 years and fly it yourself at 17.

Paul in NY
 
GoodToGo!

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Posted: 08:51am 17 Sep 2018
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I tried landing a jet in the sim once.

The first two attempts didn't end well....

But having the chance to fly around..... errr, I mean 'learn' in a gazillion dollar sim is just the best fun!

Cheers,
GTG!
...... Don't worry mate, it'll be GoodToGo!
 
Paul_L
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Posted: 09:59pm 17 Sep 2018
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For a few years back in the 1960s I was involved in the maintenance of the original analog DC8 simulator. I must have logged over 100 hours in it. That was fun. I only have about 20 hours on the later digital simulators, 707 and 747. I got away from the simulators about 1972 and started playing with real aircraft more. I made sure to turn off the motion simulation on the 747. It had a 200 KW hydraulic system. The cockpit could jump 15 meters in 2 seconds on suspender cables. We called it the jock strap. It turned out there was nothing to worry about, the 747 automatically deploys the spoilers on main gear squat so it really can't bounce.

Flying the transport simulators was very little problem. The big aircraft are very stable and I had over 1200 hours on real aircraft. I used to do crop dusting back in the 1950s when I was too young to have any brains. I even tried to fly an egg beater once, a Bell 47D1 about 1956, but I decided I wanted to be able to scratch an itch so I quit that.

Paul in NY
 
JackRabbit
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Posted: 12:52am 20 Sep 2018
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Every time I see one of these young pilot articles I remember little Jessica DubroffEdited by JackRabbit 2018-09-21
 
Grogster

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Posted: 01:09am 20 Sep 2018
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Never heard of that one. Tragic.
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Malibu
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Posted: 08:59pm 13 Oct 2018
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G'day Grogs,
This one I'd forgotten about and stumbled on it again a couple of days ago on You-Tube...
Not quite in the same vein as the emergency landings, but still a really interesting story to watch.
Settle in for an hour and enjoy

Nova Documentary - B-29 "Frozen in time"
John
 
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