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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9753 |
We have come a long way..... Windows 1 Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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palcal Guru  Joined: 12/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2006 |
It's not much slower than my win 10 laptop. "It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" |
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OA47 Guru Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1013 |
And to think I was paid good money to perform that task. It reminded me of a situation where a client brought in a DOS PC and asked if I could lower the volume level as it was bringing up an error. On further investigation of the PC it seemed some smart person had renamed the Hard Disk with the name "Too Loud" so that every time the client typed DIR the PC would reply on screen The volume is Too loud. OA47 |
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| Phil23 Guru Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
Got the disks here, inc FREE version 2.0 upgrade. |
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| Boppa Guru Joined: 08/11/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 816 |
Still got a set of w2 and w3.3 installation discs here- don't know if they would still work though... |
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Azure Guru Joined: 09/11/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 446 |
I think I still have some of my older 8" floppies with CP/M, Concurrent CP/M, MSDOS and P system OS' |
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| Boppa Guru Joined: 08/11/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 816 |
I dont know why I keep my old floppies, I dont have a 5 1/4" drive anymore- jeez I dont have any floppy drives at all anymore, still got a tower and the old lappy with dvd burners in them, but havent used them in - over a decade? probably longer New lappy doesnt even have a dvd drive in it at all But I just cant chuck em out... |
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goc30 Guru Joined: 12/04/2017 Location: FrancePosts: 435 |
Last year, I found an old disk ide, with win 3.1 and word6. For fun I install this disk on my computer (an I3 intel with 4 go ram). It work without problems, and it is very very fast (6sec from boot to windows and same time for word)  |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9753 |
I have a set of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups floppy disks.(3.5") That was MY first 'Windows'. I never saw or had any experience with Windows 1 or Windows 2, so this video was rather interesting. Windows 1 on that old XT was very slow. See how each individual window had all it's elements drawn one after another slowly?  Not a criticism - that was the speed of things back then. I still remember those slow RAM checks at boot-up. Something I am glad we don't have to suffer through these days. Imagine a RAM test on 8GB or 16GB or more.....  Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4133 |
It was so slow and so limited that many a commentator said it had no future. I nearly put "expert commentator"! Mind you it was around then that "640K should be enough for anybody". John |
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| Boppa Guru Joined: 08/11/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 816 |
Yes but you have to remember that the XP only ran at 4.7mhz.... A Micromite runs 10 times faster!!! Scary how far we have come..  |
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Quazee137 Guru Joined: 07/08/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 600 |
Well today some of my local business are asking how I booted LINUX from a usb drive. As They cant use the computers till MS fixes a new activation bug. said to be fixed withing the next two days. Most can not be down for even a full day let alone two. So I am making a dozen of them to go hand out. Windows 1. 2.4 and 3 wasn't this bad. Any one remember GEM and XTREE funny how windows looked a lot like them. work back then LOL Two sided 8" CP/M and DBase or MT-Pascal side one. work files side 2. and don't forget USER #n no sub folders with USER 0 to 15. WOW what a ride it has been. 1st kit a MARK 8, 2nd Altair 8800 and many add on cards. 3rd was the MicroAce (Sinclair ZX80). To many bareboard builds to count. |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9753 |
XTREE - oh yes. I used XTREE Pro, and then XTREE Gold. They were wonderful little file managers, and I had repeated urges from my computer guy to quit using it, when we moved to Windows 95 at the time. I wanted to keep using Xtree, but something about it upset Bill(Windows) even at the time. I use Puppy Linux on a USB stick in my standard kit, so if someone is having serious issues with their Windows box, you can boot up Puppy and have a look around. I use Linux's Gparted utility all the time on ex-Linux drives I want to re-use in Windows machines. USB drives are a fine example of that. You setup a bootable Linux on them, and Windows cannot delete those partitions and put the flash drive back to one you can use in Windows, without Gparted first deleting all the old partitions and putting a new one on there that Windows can see. I guess that is fair enough in some ways. Windows is only designed to work on Windows partitions. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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bigmik Guru Joined: 20/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2971 |
Lads, I used GEM for about an hour then killed it.. I also tried OS/2 which looked better. but at the time I said that graphics would never kick off and stayed with DOS for many years.. My first windows was called `Windows with Multi-media 1.0' that came with a CD drive I bought (for about $1000) included a soundblaster sound card as well. I never could work out if that was actually windows 1 or not but it was definitely before 3.0 and 3.1 came out.. I sold it for a few $100 many years later to a collector who never heard of it and wanted it.. (I had moved to 3.1 by those days which was the first system I actually liked with graphics.. @Grogster, All, ZTREE lives on and is fully compatible with current windows.. I often use it.. although not as often as I did. It is available here http://www.ztree.com/ Kind Regards, Mick Mick's uMite Stuff can be found >>> HERE (Kindly hosted by Dontronics) <<< |
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| Paul_L Guru Joined: 03/03/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 769 |
Does that bring back memories. When DOS loads the AUTOEXEC.BAT file loads the Norton Commander, my favorite program. I don't know why you would want to install windoze when you have NC available. NC was dropped by Symantec after they bought Peter Norton's business. (Peter was originally a Boeing and JPL programmer working on mainframes and minis.) Symantec, or course, abandoned NC, it was just too good for them. Christian Ghisler, who lives in Switzerland, reverse engineered NC using Delphi in 1993 calling it Windows Commander. In 2002 he changed its name to Total Commander when Microsoft complained about his use of the word windows. It's still the best file manager around, and I run it every day. I sent Christian $25 for a license back in 1994 and he's still providing me with updates. The current windows download is a 30 day demo ware which turns into a nagware. There are free mobile versions. This is a shameless plug!!!! Paul in NY |
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Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5157 |
Does anyone remember a system called Framework, by Ashton Tate? Very early, around 1985. It was a GUI interface, with a word processor, spreadsheet, calculator, calendar, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framework_(office_suite) When I was a Telecom apprentice back in the early 80's, I was given the job of doing the weekly time sheets for my site ( Mackay radio department, about 10 staff ). I ended up writing a spreadsheet like program on my unused Microbee ( I had discovered girls about then, Microbee was no longer may favourite toy ) to help with the time sheets and record the data on tape, and used that for a few months before we were given a IBM XT. I rewrote the program in MS Basica. A few months later the head computer expert for the area installed something called "Framework". He said no one would be using basic in 5 years, it was at a dead end. I picked up a copy of Framework III a few years ago at a clearance sale. Its a full set, I think, manuals and floppies. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9753 |
@ Paul - My boss loved Norton Commander/Windows Commander/Total Commander vs Xtree at the time. I remember fondly, the friendly arguments we would have trying to extol in the other, the great features of the other! Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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