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lizby
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Posted: 02:14pm 07 Jun 2019

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Each time I switch computers I have to log in to the forum again. Daily I use a laptop in one location the the morning, and a different one in another location in the afternoon. I have to log in each time (I have the "Stay Logged In" box checked each time).

With cookies, shouldn't the forum be able to tell that I'm the same person in each place? Note that I never log off or close the browser window and power cycle only when required to by a Windows update--I simply close the laptop and everything goes to sleep.

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LadyN

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Posted: 04:46pm 07 Jun 2019

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Import your cookies from one of the computers and overwrite the cookies on the other computers with that one.

otherwise each computer will have its own cookie and reset your session id.

Without a session id anyone can login as you by changing their own cookies because they know your user id.

The server associates your user id and session id, so every-time the session id in the cookie is different from the session id associated with the one last linked to you your user id, the system asks you to relogin to ensure no one is trying to emulate you.

If this is confusing please let me know and I will try to make it more concise - I REALIZED I typed out too much but I'm at class right nowEdited by LadyN 2019-06-09

lizby
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Posted: 05:18pm 07 Jun 2019

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Thank you for your response. Interesting, and perhaps the case for thebackshed, but on none of the other forums that I follow is that an issue. On other forums I use the same two laptops (plus others), and they know who I am and don't make me log in again in order to post.

On the computer I'm working on now, thebackshed.com has 3 cookies, none of which appear to have explicit session dates; www.thebackshed.com has 16 cookies, with names like "ASPSESSIONIDCUBDRRAQ". All of these say "Expires When the browsing session ends". They were created on various recent dates, including today.

There are also cookies named "RT", "WWF", and "Local Storage".

Edited by lizby 2019-06-09

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palcal

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Posted: 09:06pm 07 Jun 2019

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It bugs me as well, I switch computers from my workshop to my laptop every day and have to log in every time I use TBS.

edit...I did post about this a while back see HERE Edited by palcal 2019-06-09

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Gizmo

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Posted: 05:12am 08 Jun 2019

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Its a security thing. Think about why its there. Its also deep in the code, and not easy to remove.

Yes other forums work differently. When it comes to ease of use and features, this forum is middle of the range. Some good points, some bad points.

This forum code is old, moving to another forum code base is difficult. Very difficult, looked into it several time.

Life's tough. Someone probably got shot today, or watched a relative die.

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Boppa
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Posted: 07:29am 08 Jun 2019

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Plus the risks, sometimes when shifting to a new version, you effectively 'lose' all the old posts, another forum I post at had this happen- they effectively had to leave the old forum up, with no posting privileges for anyone, as they never did get the swap over sorted, when they tried to import all the old posts, they became totally messed up and they didn't want to lose all the old threads

lizby
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Posted: 01:38pm 08 Jun 2019

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Gizmo said Life's tough. Someone probably got shot today, or watched a relative die.

Well, that's certainly a bigger hammer all right.

I don't have any complaints about the forum software in general. If LadyN's suggestion would work, how do I know which of the many cookies to copy?

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JohnS
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Posted: 01:45pm 08 Jun 2019

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Maybe clear all cookies, login, see what cookies are now there.

Do it under a new account (on your OS) so you don't lose all the other cookies you still want.

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Posted: 11:58pm 08 Jun 2019

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Gizmo said

Life's tough. Someone probably got shot today, or watched a relative die.

My point is this logging in issue is a small inconvenience. Yes I can see its annoying, but in the big picture, not so much. Next month I have to get cancer cut out of my face, I'm scared and I'm sick with worry, but its only a small inconvenience compared to a friend of mine who has a failing heart.

I suspect the forum uses the cookie and the users IP address to force a fresh log in, so dont know if just copying cookies will help.

On my own TBS log in I dont have it save my password, I need to log in every time. I do this because I have admin rights to the forum, and if someone hacked into my computer, they could bring the whole forum down. I also have remote desktop access to a dozen servers for my business clients. I dont save any passwords for them either, I have to type them in every time. The passwords are stored in a little book.

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