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  Paul_L said  Watsamatta wid youse guys .... it's a LIVING language. Like we sed in Bruklin when I wuz growing up .... fuhgedaboutdit.


And we are just having a living conversation, that is what´s all about the living language.

I am learning quite a lot!

  Paul_L said  .... fuhgedaboutdit


Great!  

But coming back to topic ... a bit ...

Now I got something more classic or classy than the british "Colour" ...

I will call it the "hiw MM2" and for short just Huey or Huey Lewis.



  SimpleSafeName said  My brother and I were both born in Germany


Really? Interesting! So you have a brother?


  SimpleSafeName said  And that I can't be elected president


Just come back and become a better German Chancellor than we have!  

  SimpleSafeName said  No, I think that limiting your population to only one language


Yes, that´s also my opinion but here in Germany it is somehow different, without any English skills you cannot really upgrade yourself, so english always has to be the first choice for us.

From my personal experience 4 years of Latin really helped me to get easily into many european languages at least as much as I needed to.

If I was living in the US I think spanish would be my first choice as well.

And I think you just pointed out what it is all about training your brain or keeping it from degrading (at least by ageing) and being able to handle yourself in various surroundings.

That is just the reason why my wife and me are still learning languages some specifically and some related to some degree just by the way ... not meaning that we are really eager.

I think as long as you have fun with whatever then it will support your brain in general.

And that is the point I really chalk up to our PES, kids need to have fun in school and the rest will happen automatically.

A good teacher can and must put thirst of knowledge into the students head!

I wish I could go back to school to the time I was young and really exploit all the opportunities I just have put aside not having had any interest for in those times of hormonal imbalance.

And that is no matter of sentimentally turning back any time, but just using all useful gifts I neglected. Today this all is not as easy any more as it was then!

Young students do not cherish what they get for more or less free, but I cannot blame them, neither did I!

And so I can really come back to the Huey 2, I think this can really attract young people just like the C64 did in former times, of course not to that degree, but generally more than anything else nowadays!


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  Poppy said  
  SimpleSafeName said  My brother and I were both born in Germany


Really? Interesting! So you have a brother?


Several. :) Four brothers and four sisters. Plenty!


  Poppy said  
  SimpleSafeName said  And that I can't be elected president


Just come back and become a better German Chancellor than we have!  


I'd like to visit one day, I'm sure that Frankfurt has changed quite bit since I was there last. LOL!


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  SimpleSafeName said  No, I think that limiting your population to only one language


Yes, that´s also my opinion but here in Germany it is somehow different, without any English skills you cannot really upgrade yourself, so english always has to be the first choice for us.

From my personal experience 4 years of Latin really helped me to get easily into many european languages at least as much as I needed to.

If I was living in the US I think spanish would be my first choice as well.

And I think you just pointed out what it is all about training your brain or keeping it from degrading (at least by ageing) and being able to handle yourself in various surroundings.

That is just the reason why my wife and me are still learning languages some specifically and some related to some degree just by the way ... not meaning that we are really eager.

I think as long as you have fun with whatever then it will support your brain in general.

And that is the point I really chalk up to our PES, kids need to have fun in school and the rest will happen automatically.

A good teacher can and must put thirst of knowledge into the students head!

I wish I could go back to school to the time I was young and really exploit all the opportunities I just have put aside not having had any interest for in those times of hormonal imbalance.

And that is no matter of sentimentally turning back any time, but just using all useful gifts I neglected. Today this all is not as easy any more as it was then!

Young students do not cherish what they get for more or less free, but I cannot blame them, neither did I!

And so I can really come back to the Huey 2, I think this can really attract young people just like the C64 did in former times, of course not to that degree, but generally more than anything else nowadays!



You can actually see the difference in the brains of single language and multi-language people. And being multi-lingual appears to reduce the chance, or delay the onset, of Alzheimer's.

I took French in high school, which not having anyone to practice with, has pretty much vanished at this point. Spanish was a bit of a necessity, and I get a lot of practice, so I'm conversational in it.

The funny thing is the looks that I get. I'm basically a pair of pink eyes away from being an albino, and to have *Mexican* Spanish come out of my mouth has been a shock to people at times.

I use the same idioms that they use, simply because that's how I learned it. Or as my friends put it: "Tu habla espanol como un cholo!" ("You speak Spanish like a gangster!") To which I point out who my Maestros (teachers) were...

So what is the "Huey 2"?

Stephanie (my roommate's middle child) has built a Harlequin Spectrum ZX computer as well as a few other things including a MMC (MicroMite Companion). She's a bit of a boss when it comes to soldering. Here she is building the ZX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q29C5nc-9k
 
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Stephanie (my roommate's middle child) has built a Harlequin Spectrum ZX computer as well as a few other things including a MMC (MicroMite Companion). She's a bit of a boss when it comes to soldering. Here she is building the ZX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q29C5nc-9k


Nice, that is what I mean, young people having interests!
And it does not have to or actually must not be stereotypically girls playing with dolls and boys playing with cars.

  SimpleSafeName said  So what is the "Huey 2"?


Might have drowned within all text.

"Huey 2" = Colour MaxiMite 2

according to:

old english "hiw" (spoken: "hue") = "colour"
(see: OED excerpt)

  Poppy said  But coming back to topic ... a bit ...

Now I got something more classic or classy than the british "Colour" ...

I will call it the "hiw MM2" and for short just Huey or Huey Lewis.





Just a joke, but actually I like it as a nickname.

SO I think the "Huey 2" can inspire young ones just like this little girl, at least more than any Arduino can, talking of pure inspiration, it might not get that successful, but it is going to be a new landmark though having not the colour of money the C64 once had, but this makes it even more impressive to me.


El español de origen latino es un idioma muy interesante ... y es un lenguaje vivo!


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My 2c on this is that...........I never even noticed it in the first place.

While Greg certainly raises a valid point, up until he posted this thread, I had never even thought about this at all in all the years I have now been playing with the various flavours of the Maximite and Micromite.

I think the logo is just fine as it is.  Weather it needs changing, is really up to Geoff and Peter to decide on.

......and I too, also have OCD in that I have to install all resistors so their colour-codes line up!  

But with respect to this logo issue, I never even noticed.  I think that will be most users experience.  Also, you need to maintain a connection with the original 8-colour Maximite, and that logo does that - despite the CMM2 being way more powerful etc.

I seem to recall that this was even discussed in the group during development(IE: 'How about a more flashy logo for the CMM2?'), but that the original logo was the way to proceed as it linked the CMM2 as a progression of the CMM1.
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  GregZone said  

Yes, I'm one of those makers who finds it essential to orientate all resistors the same way around (yes even the tiny hard to read SMD's must have their value markings orientated correctly!), otherwise it bugs me! LOL




  when you wrote orientate...did you mean orient..

tut, tut....
 
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  when you wrote orientate...did you mean orient..

tut, tut....


Express

PS:

Just asking because both verbs are apparently correct depending on the "orientation", so any slang I am missing?
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  Poppy said  
  zeitfest said  


  when you wrote orientate...did you mean orient..

tut, tut....


Express

PS:

Just asking because both verbs are apparently correct depending on the "orientation", so any slang I am missing?



Interesting!

We should mount all resistors facing the east!
... and all bricked ones with their feet towards the east!

But what side is a resistor´s face or feet?




OED, 1st. Ed. (1888)
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No OCD here, they just all have to point in the same direction for me.

Okay, they all have to point in the same direction and be able to be read left-to-right, or top-to-bottom.

Okay, okay, all that, and the wires have to bent just *so*.
 
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  SimpleSafeName said  No OCD here, they just all have to point in the same direction for me.

Okay, they all have to point in the same direction and be able to be read left-to-right, or top-to-bottom.

Okay, okay, all that, and the wires have to bent just *so*.



when hand-populating an SMD PCB, having all the resistors and capacitors orientated in the same direction makes it MUCH easier and quicker to assemble     and having all the writing the same way up makes spotting any errors easier!


cheers,
rob   :-)
 
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Clean bending is very important for me, using such a device:
Bending Device

What do you call it, I don´t know the english name for it.

This way it is even easier and faster, because all legs directly fit right into the holes.
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  Quote  What do you call it, I don´t know the english name for it.

Lead former I have two.

I'm the same, the resistors should all be readable without rotating the board.

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  Poppy said  
  SimpleSafeName said  
Stephanie (my roommate's middle child) has built a Harlequin Spectrum ZX computer as well as a few other things including a MMC (MicroMite Companion). She's a bit of a boss when it comes to soldering. Here she is building the ZX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q29C5nc-9k


Nice, that is what I mean, young people having interests!
And it does not have to or actually must not be stereotypically girls playing with dolls and boys playing with cars.


Not here. Tania paints, Stephanie and Jonny swim a lot, and play with the "unintended bunnies" (unintended due to a tragic gender identification error made by their parents, which resulted in one of the male bunnies having a litter).


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  SimpleSafeName said  So what is the "Huey 2"?


Might have drowned within all text.

"Huey 2" = Colour MaxiMite 2

according to:

old english "hiw" (spoken: "hue") = "colour"
(see: OED excerpt)

But coming back to topic ... a bit ...

Now I got something more classic or classy than the british "Colour" ...

I will call it the "hiw MM2" and for short just Huey or Huey Lewis.



Just a joke, but actually I like it as a nickname.

SO I think the "Huey 2" can inspire young ones just like this little girl, at least more than any Arduino can, talking of pure inspiration, it might not get that successful, but it is going to be a new landmark though having not the colour of money the C64 once had, but this makes it even more impressive to me.



She likes to solder, which is a heck of a start, but isn't all that interested in developing code or designing a project. At 11 years old, I reckon there is still time though... :)

And I got my CMM2 delivered today! I hope to introduce the kids to Mauro's excellent Gauntlet game, which would allow me to try to divert their interest to coding. Hmm, might work...

  Poppy said  El español de origen latino es un idioma muy interesante ... y es un lenguaje vivo!



Oh yeah, the Mexican idioms can be a *whole* lot of fun. And if you don't speak Spanish natively, *and* grew up there locally, I would avoid that game if I were you. If I were to try, I would end up being like the one-legged man in a butt kicking contest...

My go-to phrase if I am not sure if I am speaking to a Latin American, or someone from Cuba or Puerto Rico, is: ¿Arroz con popote?

To someone that speaks Spanish from outside of Mexico, etc, you've just asked them "Rice and a straw?". Which will earn you a blank look. To a Mexican, you will have them busting up with laughter (the phrase coming from someone like me makes it even funnier).

I'll let the curious research this on their own (I suggest the urban dictionary).
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  Turbo46 said  Lead former

Thanks Bill!


  Turbo46 said  the resistors should all be readable without rotating the board.


In the beginning I tried to read the colour-coding but I was never able to, some colours do just look the same to me and physically my eyes did not improve their capabilitiy over the years, so without any checking device I am lost.


  SimpleSafeName said  She likes to solder, which is a heck of a start, but isn't all that interested in developing code or designing a project. At 11 years old, I reckon there is still time though... :)

And I got my CMM2 delivered today! I hope to introduce the kids to Mauro's excellent Gauntlet game, which would allow me to try to divert their interest to coding. Hmm, might work...


Coding is not everything in the world, probably she is more interested in classic electronics and to a certain degree hardware and software will always flow together.

I think it is fine when young kids just try out and want to see what´s behind something, they don´t have to become experts just at least they will not degrade to simple stupid users.


  SimpleSafeName said  My go-to phrase if I am not sure if I am speaking to a Latin American, or someone from Cuba or Puerto Rico, is: ¿Arroz con popote?


¿Descripción gráfica de la mamada entre hombres?

  SimpleSafeName said  Mexican, you will have them busting up with laughter (the phrase coming from someone like me makes it even funnier)


As long as they (if being not interested) do not think you are making a serious offer ... but what does it really mean if they don´t get upset?!


But some comparable fun I used to have with Russians and some russian idioms I learned (but I cannot type them).

As long as the addressed people really do have humor ....  
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So I (finally) bought a CMM2 and I just couldn't resist.


 
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  Poppy said  ¿Descripción gráfica de la mamada entre hombres?


Just a joke, not an offer... :)

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  SimpleSafeName said  Mexican, you will have them busting up with laughter (the phrase coming from someone like me makes it even funnier)


As long as they (if being not interested) do not think you are making a serious offer ... but what does it really mean if they don´t get upset?!


But some comparable fun I used to have with Russians and some russian idioms I learned (but I cannot type them).

As long as the addressed people really do have humor ....  


Some folks from Mexico City are a breed of their own, and not as much fun. Mostly they won't speak to you in Spanish unless you speak it fluently. Not all of them, but of the non-talkers that I have encountered, they have all come from Mexico City. Everywhere else folks are generally pretty laid back.

And one of my Spanish language books "The Street-Wise Spanish Survival Guide" has an entire section on different "vulgar" expressions and what the risk level is. The reasoning (and reality) being that you're going to hear these things, and you probably should understand what they mean before you go off repeating them.

It also covers the "Albur" which is a game of hiding a (sexual) double entendre in a normally harmless message. The kind of thing that a construction worker would excel in. I would avoid this sport if I were you.

As a primer of sorts, I would like to introduce you to the band "Molotov"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iJMOBcPQyg&list=RDEMMy1O9O44E-vVTJhOAJxg-Q&start_radio=1
 
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Some folks from Mexico City are a breed of their own, and not as much fun. Mostly they won't speak to you in Spanish unless you speak it fluently. Not all of them, but of the non-talkers that I have encountered, they have all come from Mexico City. Everywhere else folks are generally pretty laid back.

And one of my Spanish language books "The Street-Wise Spanish Survival Guide" has an entire section on different "vulgar" expressions and what the risk level is. The reasoning (and reality) being that you're going to hear these things, and you probably should understand what they mean before you go off repeating them.

[...]

I would avoid this sport if I were you


In my opinion only laid back people do have real humor, if the language is just aggressive than the people are generally.


  SimpleSafeName said  they won't speak to you in Spanish unless you speak it fluently.


There is a typical phenomenon with Germans thinking "the world is ours", in foreign countries they show up and think everybody else must talk german as well and so they often get just ignored unless they start talking domestically.
And that is correct!

But if someone tries to speak a foreign language and obviously needs practice but is willing to, must be respected!

  SimpleSafeName said  As a primer of sorts, I would like to introduce you to the band "Molotov"


Of course I know Molotov, since "Puto" (from the end 90´s I think), they are just funny somehow .

Damned, at those times we had parties (with many foreign friends) just screaming "Puto, Puto, Puto"! I think this got introduced by a guy from Chile.


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I guess mAXImITE is right out?  

Those rounded m's in the logo look like lower case to me except for the size. And the rest are small caps which can be interpreted as uppercase while I'm ignoring size.
 
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