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Grogster

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Posted: 06:02am 26 Feb 2023
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This is an interesting video.
Links to download the ISO image files are in the video description.

W10 or W11 compact/superlite...

Both of these are super-cut-down versions of Windoze, and the video suggests some stellar performance benefits.  There are warnings in the video though, and also installing this is PROBABLY a breach of the Microsuck EULA, but having said that, you actually could LICENSE a version like this, by purchasing a key from MS, and linking this version to it.

That would make the cut-down version fine as far as license is concerned, but I expect MS would probably still have an issue with it - you are, after all, bypassing all their lovely telemetry and spying crap that have made both W10 and most recently W11 complete pigs to run in their native un-modified versions.....

I will install a version of the W11 one on a spare machine in the next few days and see how it goes.  I will use the COMPACT version, not the super-lite one.

Very interesting though.
Reminds me of Micro-XP, which was a super-cut-down version of Windoze XP Pro.
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Bryan1

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Posted: 06:41am 26 Feb 2023
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Grogster after my venture into windows does show Mint rules
 
pd--
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Posted: 08:00am 26 Feb 2023
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Theirs a powershell script called windows10debloter that does a fair job of switching off the crap.

when i needed to make the change from win7 to win10 i built a win10 virtual machine
ripped out all the rubbish and have just been cloning it ever since.

https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater#readme


If you wont to kill all the unnecessary telemetry one easy way is with the host file
just add an entry to the loopback address

127.0.0.1       morejunk.com
 
IanRogers

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Posted: 09:25am 26 Feb 2023
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I have been looking into this as well...

As a PC gamer, microsoft is really getting to me. When I turn on my Win 10 PC to play my game it can take up to 20mins for windows to settle down.

Telemetry and updates ( LOL update turn right off but still they come).

I was waiting Steam OS but this superlight looks like it may be the way to go.

I may do this in the next few days, However! There are a few dubious builds out there, so You have to be careful
Edited 2023-02-26 19:25 by IanRogers
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Grogster

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  Bryan1 said  Grogster after my venture into windows does show Mint rules


Heh, heh, yeah, I read your other thread!  
Mint is exceptionally good, and I would be on it 24/7 if not for the fact my CAD software does not run in Linux, and the developers have stated they will never port it to Linux.  I had a LITTLE success running them under WINE in Linux, but they were unstable, and could crash at a moment's notice, and I can't have that.  Other people suggested using a VM with a small Windoze inside it, and THAT DID WORK - very well, actually, but I still could not get the VM to see the local Linux printer no matter what.  The VM software could see the printer, you could map it to the virtual copy of XP, but XP just refuses to see it when you look for a printer.  As I need printouts to verify sizes of things as I design, that was a deal-breaker for me.

So, still run a W10 box(this one), but all my other machines are forms of Linux.
My media server boxes are Puppy Linux with SAMBA, my mediaplayer is a Raspberry Pi running OpenElec.  My field testing laptop is dual-boot XP/Mint.

Blah, blah, blah....

@ pd--: Thanks for the link - I will check it out.  Might be useful.

@ Ian Rogers: Yes, you do have to be careful.  I've never had any issue PLAYING ABOUT with those cut-down builds, but for most machines, I still opt for the full MS install, and then trim as much of the fat as you can after the install.  That usually requires the use of 3rd party tools such as 'Shut Up Ten' etc.
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JohnS
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  Grogster said  I still could not get the VM to see the local Linux printer no matter what.  The VM software could see the printer, you could map it to the virtual copy of XP, but XP just refuses to see it when you look for a printer.  As I need printouts to verify sizes of things as I design, that was a deal-breaker for me.

Could you print to PDF then print that PDF from a Linux window?

John
 
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  JohnS said  Could you print to PDF then print that PDF from a Linux window?
John


that is exactly what i did for someone last year! i set up a directory shared between the VM and linux, and told the user to export as a PDF to that directory from within the VM whenever they wanted to print anything.

i then had a process running on the linux side that monitored that shared directory, and for any PDF found would spool it to a network printer then delete the PDF.

as an aside, this was to allow using MS Access - the one windows application they needed to use. they had a valid MS Office Professional license key dating from around 2012 or so. i was able to install MS Office within the VM (that ran XP), then contacted microsoft to get an activation code. it all worked without a hitch.

once set up, i also made a backup of the VM so everything was recoverable if anything ever went wrong, of if they need to migrate to different hardware in future.


cheers,
rob   :-)
 
Grogster

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@ John & Robert: To be honest, I don't think I ever tried.  I know I used an XP Pro SP3 image for the VM, and installed my CAD softwares into that, but I don't recall exporting to PDF, as I was(at the time) concentrating on just trying to get XP to see the printer that Linux and the VM software knew was there.

I don't think XP could print to PDF anyway, so we'd need a 3rd party "Printer driver" to make that work.  I might be wrong, but I don't remember XP supporting print to PDF directly.

But then you end up with something of a dilemma - you're running XP in a VM on Linux, to use Windoze software you have to have.  Why not simply use a machine/laptop capable of running XP and be done with it.  I suppose the SPEED with which the likes of XP boot and run inside a VM is certainly a plus - they are VERY zippy inside a VM, so there's that!
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If you have space for an extra machine (with XP) and keep it off the internet, go for it.

If it fails, there will likely be very cheap replacements (I suppose one day there will be none but could be many years till then).

I've no idea whether XP had / could have a print to PDF feature.  (Print to any file at all would probably do.)

John
 
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Posted: 10:53am 28 Feb 2023
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CutePDF Writer works well on XP. Shows up as a printer. Free.
 
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Hello, this Tool makes a very good Job against the "Bill Gates" Telemtry Horror;-)


https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11
Version 1.9.1434, File size 1700KB.
Released on: 10/25/2022

O&O ShutUp10++ means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 and Windows 11 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 and Windows 11 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated.

O&O ShutUp10++ is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software, like so many other programs do these days!
 
Grogster

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Posted: 11:40pm 28 Feb 2023
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@ phill99: Thanks.  I thought there probably would be something that would let XP print to PDF, and there you go.

@ atmega8: Yes, that's exactly the tool I use and referred to in one of my posts above.  I like it, and have used it for years.  Have not tried it out on W11 cos I don't have any W11 machines.
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