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Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9763
Posted: 07:05am 08 Mar 2024
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I needed a 1TB SSD in NVMe flavour for someone's upgrade, and was surprised to find - when it arrived - that it only uses ONE flash-memory chip now!
The last time I bought a 1TB M.2, it had EIGHT chips on it - four top, four bottom. This new one drops SEVEN CHIPS for ONE.
BGA chip on the right, is the 1TB. There is a controller chip(upper-left), and what APPEARS to be a super-fast SDRAM chip at lower-left, which can buffer data at super fast speed, before committing it to the flash chip on the right.
This would seem to be the case, cos this NVMe is a WD Green series, so in order to save power and performance, you get a cheaper device.
You can write to this thing at OVER 300MB/s on a USB3 connection, up until what I THINK is going on - you fill up the SDRAM buffer - then the write speed drops down to 100MB/s.
That's my theory, anyway, and for sporadic OS use, and not moving 100's of GB of data, that is fine. Want better performance? Buy the more expensive WD blue-series.
Still, I find this impressive at an electronics level. You now have what is effectively a SATA controller, multi-GB buffer RAM, and the main storage medium - in three chips total.
If you go back to the 80's, the IDE controller for a HDD, was a separate ISA card by itself, absolutely covered in chips - and that was JUST the controller, to say nothing of the HDD you then connected to that card.
A little respect to development.....Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops!
mclout999 Guru Joined: 05/07/2020 Location: United StatesPosts: 492
Posted: 03:23pm 08 Mar 2024
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My Steam Deck 1TB and 2TB 2230 NVMEs(about a postage stamp in size) Gen3 are one chip that includes the controller embedded. On the M.2 port, they get about 3200mbps and in a USB C 10mbps enclosure, it runs at about the theoretical limit of 1000mbps. The system drives in my gaming PC are Samsung Gen 4s that run about 7000mbps. I remember thinking how amazing my first MFM HDD was when I got it. My first HDD was for my TRS-80 Model I. It was an 8" monster that took up a desktop and was a whopping 5 MB. It's controller BOX was much larger than the Model I. I ran a BBS on it over a 300-baud modem. At every new step forward I was amazed at the technology and that is why I love computing technology for its own sake.
EDIT: It was bugging the hell out of me that I could not remember the type of HDD I had for the Model I. It was a "Winchester" drive. Edited 2024-03-09 02:16 by mclout999They call me Shai-Hulud (The maker)
Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9763
Posted: 10:55pm 08 Mar 2024
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Impressive! Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops!
Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1595
Posted: 12:27am 09 Mar 2024
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yea up this week I had never heard of these so I just had to go look at that laptop I bought and yes it does have a 500 gig NVME HD installed, not bad for a laptop brought out in '18 I reckon...
Cheers Bryan
Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9763
Posted: 04:02am 09 Mar 2024
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I expect 2.5" SATA SSD's to be around for a wee while yet, BUT - most motherboard manufacturers, NUC and laptop designers, have moved to M.2 drives cos they are so much smaller and easier to design into a product. That and the NVMe flavours are even faster then the fastest SATA drives, so....Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops!
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