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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : reset win 11
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stanleyella Guru  Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2534 |
This could happen to anyone. I updated win 10 to win 11 on a pc that didn't have the security spec, ie unsupported. worked fine but when I got to use it I forgot the password. after holding shift and clicking, a screen comes up, tried the command bypass- no joy SO tried Reset PC. if you never done this on win 11 it takes 45 minutes. it erases files then reloads windows from the pc then asks lots of questions including create a pin. next it updates which takes 30 minutes. eventually win 11 starts and asks for the pin you entered earlier instead of password and you wrote down the pin this time.. then more updating and new win 11. just write your pass word somewhere to save this hassle but reset win 11 pc works in the reset process it makes you have a microsoft account but when I entered my email address it said I had an account and said sign in. I guessed a password and it said welcome back. you then get the option to back up from a win pc you have. it's weird Edited 2025-01-11 06:42 by stanleyella |
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| pwillard Guru Joined: 07/06/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 313 |
Microsoft does try to force you into using a Network Login (aka using your PIN) rather than a local account, so the option to even use one isn't there until you use the network option at least once when you do an Operating System "start over" process. You need to go through the extra steps to regain your local account after a "wipe and refresh" action. This is unlike the "upgrade" step you did, which will carry over your settings from Windows 10, including the pre-existing local account you were using, so yes, the factory reset approach is a fresh start, and the OS has little knowledge of the past (with good reason). You don't want to carry over lousy behavior from the situation that caused you to want to start over. |
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| robert.rozee Guru Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 2436 |
... and therein lies the reason why i refuse to have anything to do with 'modern' Window$. |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9592 |
Yes, I have seen that before on many a W11 setup I have done for people who bring me their brand-new laptop, and want everything moved across. PC, Laptop or Tablet - go into the BIOS as the VERY FIRST STEP, and disable the WiFi, cos if the W11 installer can find the internet as part of the process, you WILL be forced to use a PIN and a MS Account - the option to use a local account and a password simply isn't there to choose from. Most people are therefore deceptively - IMHO - forced into using a PIN with a MS account, where OneDrive stores all of your docs and it becomes a nightmare in general, really. No interet? Then you can't use your machine, cos W11 will INSIST on logging onto your W11 account before you can use the bloody thing. Internet down at your end OR anywhere on the WAN? You can't access any of your documents, cos they are all sitting on the MS servers, and you HAVE no local copies, unless you have manually made a copy....and most people DON'T. W11 running like that reminds me of a modern-day version of the monochrome terminal systems, where the terminal is pretty much useless, unless it can talk to the server at the other end. I'm still on W10, but I keep getting nag screens from MS to update to W11, but that ain't gonna happen. Not unless it is one of those stripped down installs that removes all that crap MS are thrusting on everyone now. Rant, rant, rant..... Interestingly, as most people just use their laptop etc for browsing the net and emails, I've successgully put more then a few people onto Linux Mint now. It does all that with ease, and just f-in' WORKS without all this extra guff. I'm still ranting!  Better leave this thread now! Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2534 |
I only posted because resetting win 11 was first time I've done it and it was unexpected. Other people haven't used win 11. It was a win 10 HP compaq mini desk top pc, core I5 and 4G ram and 126G ssd, refurbished £60 odd. not win 11 spec but used Rufus to make bootable usb drive from win 11 iso. all fine until I forgot login password. Free Win aero tweaker sorts lots of carp, like clicking a file and having to scroll down to more options to see standard win 10 options like delete, copy, paste. gets rid of shortcut arrows on icons. lets you change win 11 bloat. recommended. stan |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7857 |
Seriously - you mess with any operating system at your own peril. It's the one single piece of software (if you discount the BIOS) that everything on your computer depends on absolutely. As soon as you use a hacked version or run programs that make changes to the OS you had better be working on a separate air-gapped machine that can't infect your network from the internet. IMHO using any OS that isn't trustworthy (or at least as trustworthy as it can be!) is quite simply putting everything on your computer and network at severe risk. My preference is that if I won't be able to run an official Windows release, unmodified, then it's time to either get a machine that will run it unmodified or move back to Linux. My data is worth more to me than the cost of the OS. Also, for most tasks that I do, Mint will be more than adequate. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2534 |
microsoft now allow you to run win 11 on a pc that doesn't have a cpu with security features. they say it could be unstable. allowing pcs that are capable of running win 11 but not the cpus on a list is not hacking. win aero tweaker just does what reg edit will do but just click a button. |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7857 |
If they say it could be unstable is that worth risking your data for? Regedit was never intended for "tweakers". :) Just because you *can* run a particular version of a particular OS it doesn't mean that it's safe to do so. It's not a good idea to run the latest bleeding edge versions of Linux on your main system either. You should always be able to trust your main OS, or at least be able to get back to the provider about it if you need to. At the end of the day, if your data is worth nothing to you and you won't be upset if it all gets corrupted then it doesn't matter what you do with your OS. You can't complain if that happens while you are running a possibly flaky OS though. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2534 |
I think my using win 11 on cpu that don't have security..(which has been bypassed so not that secure) is ok as far as security. it's not flaky. I don't use cloud storage. linux can have a gui that is like win and an app that does the same as a win app and for everyday casual use is fine. I used great cow basic on win. just download and install. on linux I had to build freebasic then use free basic to build great cow basic... then couldn't figure gnome editor for gcb.. gave up I bet using mmbasic and mmedit on linux is a faff |
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