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PhenixRising
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Posted: 09:45am 19 May 2025
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Tried to inform in the past but always falls on deaf ears.
 
Volhout
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Posted: 10:14am 19 May 2025
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Pico can show it's strength when we have a "PLC PCB that can be ordered from JLC" and fits in a standard DIN rail housing.
Are you up to the task...?

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dddns
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I saw basic 15 years ago on a Atmel1284 emulating ZX81 with already some more speed as the original. Completely written in ASM. There is much interest regarding tinkerers but not in mass. This is a niche where everybody has his own thoughts. And if you would let Annex32 vanish from earth, nobody would care.

I think,one can only support this by showing off his nice solutions.
And I think we are living in the last days of human kind and its the last chance.
 
PhenixRising
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Posted: 10:53am 19 May 2025
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  Volhout said  Pico can show it's strength when we have a "PLC PCB that can be ordered from JLC" and fits in a standard DIN rail housing.
Are you up to the task...?

Volhout
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Working on it...only one year behind schedule   Things keep evolving and so I keep going back to square one  

My first target is to compete with this

It's a PLC + 4-axis motion controller. Its onboard TrioBASIC executes 31 lines/ms  
 
lizby
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Posted: 12:29pm 19 May 2025
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  dddns said  if you would let Annex32 vanish from earth, nobody would care


Not true at all. I would care. From my perspective, it's the best Rapid Development System with wifi (and ESPNow). It gets far less attention than it deserves.

With the caveat: it's not to be used commercially (not a problem for me).

(But it's probably true that not more than a dozen or two would care if Annex is dropped by its creator.)

(And I don't know what Annex has to do with this thread.)
PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed
 
dddns
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Try use this and it shouldn't take too long to find out
 
Mixtel90

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A PLC is more the software than the hardware. The hardware isn't all that important now as a typical microprocessor emulates true PLC hardware in almost every case. However, it's rare to find a low-end PLC that isn't natively programmed in function block or relay ladder language. They never use C or BASIC. Things like high speed counters or timers are simply modules that the programmer doesn't have to write.

If you want an Arduino or a Pico to emulate a PLC that's fine, but you have to start by writing the programming language(s) for it first. :)  If it doesn't support function block and/or relay ladder then virtually no-one in industry will want it.

It's different when you have the big PLCs, with (in many cases) hundreds of IO points. Many of those can be programmed in a lower level language.

In many cases the low end PLCs are referred to as "intelligent relays", which is a much better description of them IMHO.
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lizby
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  dddns said  Try use this and it shouldn't take too long to find out


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PhenixRising
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  Mixtel90 said  
In many cases the low end PLCs are referred to as "intelligent relays", which is a much better description of them IMHO.


Exactly  
 
GAVI
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Posted: 04:35pm 19 May 2025
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I use ANNEX and Picomite, each is more suitable than the other for various applications.
Both projects are evolving significantly and I don't think it's fair to denigrate ANNEX
 
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