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Grogster

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Posted: 07:29am 07 Jun 2025
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Impressive.

LINK...

Planning to get one of these, to put ALL of my media on.
I have the old drives, and serveral other older backups, so I would NOT be relying on this ONE drive to stay alive, if you know what I mean.  

But this would allow me to PHYSICALLY downsize my current NAS, to a much smaller box, with everything being on the one drive.

I can already hear some of you saying how bad an idea this is - having that much on a single volume, but please remember - I have multiple redundant backups of what I would be putting on this drive, so I feel I am covered.  
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Bryan1

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Posted: 07:42am 07 Jun 2025
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over a grand each eh no thanks in 6 months they will be a quarter of the price
 
Grogster

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Yes, but that could have been said of ANY new capacity drive over time.

I remember paying $250 for my first 256MB flash drive.
I remember paying $500 or so, for my first 20GB HDD.

Not sure I agree that 24TB drives will be 25% of that price in six months....
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JohnS
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Posted: 11:41am 07 Jun 2025
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Thankfully I didn't have to pay for the fixed disk I first used but it was lots of money and a whole 64K in size!

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Mixtel90

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Posted: 12:33pm 07 Jun 2025
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It cost me a lot of money for a twin floppy drive for my Tandy Model 1, never mind a hard disk! I had to buy the Expansion Interface first as that incorporated the disk control circuit.

I didn't get a hard drive until I got an Atari ST. That needed yet another box to convert the ST port to work with the hard drive. That's been the only hard drive that I've had mechanically fail, losing everything. IIRC it was only 40MB, 50MB or something like that and probably fairly old when I got it from a radio rally.
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mclout999
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  Grogster said  Yes, but that could have been said of ANY new capacity drive over time.

I remember paying $250 for my first 256MB flash drive.
I remember paying $500 or so, for my first 20GB HDD.

Not sure I agree that 24TB drives will be 25% of that price in six months....


I remember paying over $1000 for a 5 megabyte 75lb External hard drive for my model 1 TRS-80. I wanted to run a BBS and did for a while. I forgot what interface it used. It was like wang or something like that drive. I cannot remember what the heck it was.
 
stanleyella

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Posted: 03:20pm 07 Jun 2025
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hdd drives have been poo pooed for years but the 2TB I bought from Maplin still works.
more than I can say about ssd drives
 
Mixtel90

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They are still the second best system for keeping backups. The best is still tape!
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tgerbic
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Posted: 01:36am 08 Jun 2025
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I suspect the price will come down as it always does. I have also seen 26T drives recently. For me, 24T seems just too much for me at this point. I find it better to just move generally unused data off the drives completely to clear out space. I can always reload it later if needed.

I am currently running two 12T drives in one machine (one, normally powered down, backup for the other) for data. So much better than four 6T drives for data and data backup. Plus a pair of 3T for OS (and backup image/complete boot drive) and additional photo backups. Then I have a duplicate machine that is kept powered off unless I am updating it. Overkill? Probably.

Recent drives seem to last forever. I usually only pull them when I get bigger drives, but I assume one will die at some point. Old drives, 3T and 4T, are good for backing up older files and putting in another room.

Something that I don't see mentioned is virus checking.  I remember copying about 10T to my old XP machine, dual core 3.7Ghz and SATA drives, and trying to run a full Mcafee virus check on the computer. Took nearly a week running 24 hours a day. It was an interesting test but I would not want to try it again.
 
Mixtel90

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The trouble is, with drives that size the only really safe way to use them is as two identical drives in a mirrored RAID system. You can't risk anything non-mirrored because that's a hell of a lot of data. That only protects against disk failure. On top of that you need at least the same capacity as backup, although that can be on multiple smaller drives and/or tapes. A pretty healthy bank account appears to be necessary. :)
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EDNEDN
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Posted: 01:08pm 08 Jun 2025
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  Mixtel90 said   You can't risk anything non-mirrored because that's a hell of a lot of data. That only protects against disk failure.


Yes.   Both thoughts are correct.  But an additional thought is this:   Any time you move to the latest and greatest disk technology you are asking for problems because the technology isn't well shaken out yet.    

Unless you have a very pressing need to move to the latest and greatest available, you are asking for and should expect some problems.
 
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