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| PhenixRising Guru  Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1664 |
Holy moly, I was intrigued with the inline assembly in BBC Basic for the Pico. Lost interest in matter of milliseconds. I don't know why I get so masochistic when MMBasic has already evolved to be more than I could wish for. Been thinking about maybe a petition to insist on official recognition by RPi, Pimoroni, Pi-Hut, etc. |
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| dddns Guru Joined: 20/09/2024 Location: GermanyPosts: 708 |
I agree. In order to gain recognition I think the documentation issue needs to be upgraded. |
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| Bleep Guru Joined: 09/01/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 706 |
To be honest the documentation is fantastic, you get far less/worse from commercial products, way better than 90% of free stuff, obviously if you are referring to the B releasees then you just need to be patient, or going back through the release thread. Regards Kevin |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 8349 |
The documentation is excellent if you are using the release it was written for. :) It's no use complaining about the docs if you are using beta or release candidates as there isn't any. Incidentally, if you have ideas for improving the documentation you *will* be listened to. This isn't a huge megalith like Microsoft, who listen to no-one, apparently. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| dddns Guru Joined: 20/09/2024 Location: GermanyPosts: 708 |
I agree for the content but not for the presentation. And it would be very nice, if it would be always up to date. My suggestion would be a wiki style one. Everybody could write and you could be one of the admins who commit updates and new implementations. A downloadable pdf as snapshot would replace the actual pdf. |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 8349 |
You can't keep betas up to date. Because of their nature they are constantly changing. If you are attempting to keep track of the changes you have time for little else - I've tried it and I know it's true! You have to keep going back and changing things that you may only have changed a day or two previously. That's why I stopped doing it. As for downloading a pdf, you are assured that it will be out of date at the end of the week. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| dddns Guru Joined: 20/09/2024 Location: GermanyPosts: 708 |
I'm quite sure my suggestion would lead to momentum. A group of people would specialize on keeping it up to date into the last detail. ..Just for fun! The section of nice basic examples could be improved and updated, at least for my taste. |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 8349 |
I'm sure Geoff will let you set up such a project and might even provide you with the DOC file(s) to work from. However, policing the updates to ensure that they are correct would be up to you. The current system works. We have a "stable" release and the documentation for it follows very shortly after. From that point, if you want a dependable, documented version of MMBasic you use that one. Nothing else. There may be bugs in either the firmware or the docs but there are *always* bugs in something. You have to accept that. Windows users do. :) An alternative might be to set up a wiki for beta and rc changes *only*. It gets deleted when the next new documentation release comes out and the relevant parts have been incorporated. I tried it as a repeatedly updated text file on here, but there was only me updating it, of course. The very best way of all is simply to keep reading this forum. lol Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| dddns Guru Joined: 20/09/2024 Location: GermanyPosts: 708 |
I know.. and look where we are coming from. To achieve that I told my opinion ;) |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 8349 |
Personally I never use beta or rc candidates for projects. I need the manual. I simply wait for the next version to be complete if I need any of its features. It's not worth the risk. That doesn't mean that I ignore the others, just that, as I can't regard them as stable, they are unsuitable for anything that will be screwed into a box. I'm quite happy to play with them. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2682 |
of all the people who use a rpi 2040 or pico2 I wonder how they code it. there's no way of knowing. mmbasic is not "officially" recognised. I guess if you don't use mmbasic then python or c. dunno. I can't use python, a lot of people can't use basic  |
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