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Grogster

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Posted: 06:50pm 03 Aug 2014
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Hi folks - I am just looking at building a board that will hold all the supplementary stuff I have got now on my system, but really liking this board as it has the heart of the system all in one little board.

Dontronics used to sell this, but the page is not there anymore.

I am guessing that as the chip on this board is the same chip used by the CMM, there is no problem in using it as a CMM?

This thing would be perfect, if I can use it as I hope I can, cos then I can design all my system-specific things around it, using it's nice and big 2.54mm pin spacing(the module, that is).

Do any of the members here have CMM running on one of these boards?
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TassyJim

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Yes
One with the daughter board that Mick designed and one on my usual ugly veroboard.

I just wired up the IO bits I needed.

Jim

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jman

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Hi Grogster

If you cannot get one I have a one that I have not used yet.

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Grogster

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Excellent, thanks. I have just ordered 4 pcs, before I read your offer!

Thanks anyway...

@ Jim - This will be perfect, as I don't have to design all the SMD and QFP etc, I can just design the bits I need for my system - a custom CMM, just like you are doing.

Many thanks for the input, guys.Edited by Grogster 2014-08-05
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atmega8

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  Grogster said   Excellent, thanks. I have just ordered 4 pcs, before I read your offer!

Thanks anyway...

@ Jim - This will be perfect, as I don't have to design all the SMD and QFP etc, I can just design the bits I need for my system - a custom CMM, just like you are doing.

Many thanks for the input, guys.


Build your own:
http://www.schmalzhaus.com/UBW32/

Or buy it here:

http://www.watterott.com/de/USB-32-Bit-Whacker-PIC32MX795-De velopment-Board

Runs with CMM.
 
bigmik

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Posted: 11:53pm 03 Aug 2014
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Hi Grogs,

Don still has 6 in stock and at 50% off at the moment..

See Ubw32-mcc

Regards,

Mick

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If Don has run out I still have some.. Drop me an email f interested.

MickEdited by bigmik 2014-08-05
Mick's uMite Stuff can be found >>> HERE (Kindly hosted by Dontronics) <<<
 
Grogster

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@ atmega8 - I could build my own, but like the idea of a ready-assembled module, that I don't have to much around assembling, and can just make it the core of a bigger board that I design, that has all the extra bits I need to make a specific system.

@ Mick - those are just the blank add-on boards to turn the UBW32 into a CMM clone. I'm gonna add my own bits(along with the needed bits like SD card, VGA, KB etc), and wanted to use the Sparkfun board as the core module, to save me having to design and solder 0.5mm pin-pitch QFP. Yes, yes - everyone says it's easy, and if that was the only way, but as this assembled board can form the basis of what I need, why bother to re-invent the wheel.
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bigmik

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Hi groggy,

I see, you want the actual UBW32 module?

If you need any i have a couple.

Mick
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Grogster

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Yes, I was looking for the assembled UBW32 module, but then started this thread, as I just wanted to make sure I was not overlooking something obvious with respect to being able to re-flash that unit with the CMM firmware.

Assumptions being the mother of all..... yes.... well.... You know the rest of that line, I'm sure.

I'll keep your offer in the back of my mind, as I may well need more - thanks for the offer.

12:43AM over here, and I am sober and sleepy, so time for bed.
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bigmik

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Grog,

The UBW32 can be made to look exactly like a CMM. You have to flash Geoffs bootlader.

Instructions and details are in the manal I wrote for the UBW32-MCC

Manual

Mik
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Grogster

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Cheers - I will make sure I do that, and refer to your manual.

BTW, the UBW32 is Government restricted, so say Sparkfun - I got this email from them this morning:

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Your recent SparkFun order contains 4x DEV-09713: USB 32-Bit Whacker - PIC32MX795 Development Board. This item is export controlled by the United States government. Do you intend to sell or send this item to anyone in any of the following countries: Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, or Syria? Please let me know at your earliest convenience, and thank you for your help.


Well - what to make of that!

Maybe they think that people might want to use it as a missle-guidance system controller or something like that in the countries mentioned.

Odd - NEVER have I had an email like that before about a module. From Sparkfun or any other place, for that matter.
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@Grogster

The NSA have got you on their WatchList for subversive thoughts ! Stay off the grog else they might have spiked it wit Kool-aid.

This has just got to be a jobsworth at Sparkfun having an OCD day surely ?

The chips are manufactured in China/offshore-USA and imported into the USA, so what are the NSA worried about ?

By making this post I'm probably also now on the NSA WatchList, urgh !!

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Grogster

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Well, as you say.....

I did point out(gently) to Sparkfun, that there are hundreds of different microcontroller modules out there - it is a buyer's market, so I wonder why they are picking on that one specifically?

Odd - oh well. So long as they send them to me, I am not really worried about this, but it did make me raise my eyebrows.
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Your recent SparkFun order contains 4x DEV-09713: USB 32-Bit Whacker - PIC32MX795 Development Board. This item is export controlled by the United States government. Do you intend to sell or send this item to anyone in any of the following countries: Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, or Syria? Please let me know at your earliest convenience, and thank you for your help.


As a distributor, I had to sign an agreement to this effect, however I have stopped buying anything from them, as the last time I looked, there was 7 Australian and NZ dealers to compete with, and nothing is selling these days, so I have discounted all of their products.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/minus-5-every-month-sparkfun- electronics.html

I do have plenty of the Mick designed associated boards, that I am selling off at half price:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/ubw32-mcc-pcb-letter.html
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/ubw32-mcc-pcb.html

Cheers Don...


https://www.dontronics.com
 
Grogster

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Hi.

I got a reply from Sparkfun about this, and they said that:

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The reason this part is regulated by the government is because of one of the chips used to make this board has FLEX capabilities that are monitored by the government.


They did not elaborate on what FLEX is, but perhaps it is some kind of code-cracking ability or something - perhaps someone here can tell me what FLEX is - I might also try a quick net search for that now...
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Bryan1

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Just tried a search using Bing as google aint worth even loading and nothing sinister appeared. So what a pic32 dev board is now monitored by the newday facissts so eh will the umite be on the list next week with our version of dictators ???????
 
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It's bizarre! With all those 1GHz+ chips like Allwinner A20, A31, A80 coming out of China, with GB of RAM etc.... what's the point in worrying about a PIC32?

Clueless idiots in government.... "it's to protect the citizens" hahahaha

Once upon a time long long ago I had to calculate the CPU power of a VAX to see if it fitted inside (USA) export regulations (note: this was in the UK!) - that'd be a bit of a joke nowadays!

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Yeah, I hear you, but I still don't know what FLEX is, so there must be something there.

I wonder what it is?

Years ago, FLEX was a pager protocol, but I seriously doubt that the US Government is worried about a pager technology from 20 years ago.

Very bizarre....
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May have to ask sparkfun what it is.

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  Grogster said   @ atmega8 - I could build my own, but like the idea of a ready-assembled module, that I don't have to much around assembling, and can just make it the core of a bigger board that I design, that has all the extra bits I need to make a specific system.

@ Mick - those are just the blank add-on boards to turn the UBW32 into a CMM clone. I'm gonna add my own bits(along with the needed bits like SD card, VGA, KB etc), and wanted to use the Sparkfun board as the core module, to save me having to design and solder 0.5mm pin-pitch QFP. Yes, yes - everyone says it's easy, and if that was the only way, but as this assembled board can form the basis of what I need, why bother to re-invent the wheel.


As mentioned before, you can buy The complete and preassembled Board in Germany with no restrictions:

http://www.watterott.com/de/USB-32-Bit-Whacker-PIC32MX795-De velopment-Board

 
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