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Grogster

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Posted: 12:21am 07 Jun 2015
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Hi folks.

You used to be able to buy "Destat 100" from CRC - code # 2072 - and it was great for spraying on normal plastic to make it anti-static plastic for storing microcontroller chips and other static sensitive parts.

However, it would seem this product is no longer being made, CRC are not responding to emails, and I have not been able to find any new cans of this anywhere.

Does anyone know of a similar product and where I might find some?
Problem is that most aerosols will be prohibited to send by airmail unless I obtain a dangerous goods importer certificate...

Perhaps you can get something in liquid form?

Any suggestions, links or hints would be appreciated.

EDIT: Found this. Electrolube make good stuff. Has anyone used this?Edited by Grogster 2015-06-08
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WhiteWizzard
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Hi G,

I ended up resorting to anti-staic foam 'sheets' to store all my PDIP MicroMites.

I used to use a spray product here in the UK with the similar supply issues - in my case the supplier went bankrupt. This was years ago and can't even remember the brand/name of the spray. Anyway, since then I have only used the foam sheets as it works so well. I brought a job-lot from a local electronics shop (that also has gone out of business!) and been using the same sheets since.

Any smaller 'sensitive' components (i.e. SMDs) I simply keep in the anti-static bags they come in until I need to program/use them.

Be interesting to hear if anyone recommends a spray that they currently use.

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paceman
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You might try an audio supplier that's into the vinyl revolution Grogs, quite a few of them are these days. We used anti-static wiping on records back in my HiFi days and I'd guess the disc jockeys that are big on vinyl now would still have a need for it.

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Posted: 12:47pm 07 Jun 2015
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A mild detergent and water mix, in a spray bottle.

When I was an apprentice with Telecom, I remember watching a video made by the CEO of a antistatic products manufacturer.

He worked for a electronic component manufacturing company, where components were moved around by conveyor belt in plastic trays. Every day a certain percentage of the components would fail. This went on for some time, then suddenly the failure rate dropped. Great, but why. They tracked it down to a new employee. His job was to wash the trays with soapy water at the end of the day, rinse them thoroughly, and then let them dry for the next days shift. Impatient to get home, he didn't rinse them properly, so the trays were left with a fine layer of detergent ( which is hydroscopic ). This mean the trays were ever so slightly conductive, and therefore anti-static. The employee was sacked, and the company started making anti-static plastic bags. Remember the pink plastic bags?

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TassyJim

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Posted: 12:54pm 07 Jun 2015
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A search on Ebay tells us what Grogster really wants the spray for.

Searching for anti static spray came up with:
"Anti-Statique-Static-Spray-Allendale-Clothes-Lingerie-Hosiery"


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bigmik

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Hi Grogs,

  Grogster said  
EDIT: Found this.


This is interesting I did a search of NZ E14 and found this

Spray

Same product as you linked too but different e14 code (few extra numbers at the end of their p/n) but $2 cheaper.

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Grogster

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  Gizmo said  Impatient to get home, he didn't rinse them properly, so the trays were left with a fine layer of detergent ( which is hydroscopic ). This mean the trays were ever so slightly conductive, and therefore anti-static. The employee was sacked, and the company started making anti-static plastic bags.


Does not compute.

If the trays were not rinsed properly, and therefore anti-static, is that not a GOOD thing?
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Grogster

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  TassyJim said   A search on Ebay tells us what Grogster really wants the spray for.

Searching for anti static spray came up with:
"Anti-Statique-Static-Spray-Allendale-Clothes-Lingerie-Hosiery"


Jim


You must be using a different search critera, as I never got linked to lingerie when I searched eBay for anti-static spray!!!
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paceman
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  Gizmo said   A mild detergent and water mix, in a spray bottle. Glenn

Yes I'd heard about that some years ago too Glenn - and it does work. Here's another true story.

In a smelter lab I was running in Q'ld we wanted an anti-static agent for the dust extraction system of a sample grinding mill. One of our lab supplier companies suggested a simple effective product which had apparently been installed in a lot of locations world-wide. It was a small sealed metal disc about 20mm dia and 3mm thick which contained an alpha particle source!

It duly arrived in a small shielded box by normal transport into our store. We'd had it about two weeks but not installed when we received a letter from the suppliers warning us not to install it but to wait for instructions from the state X-ray regulatory authority. Their letter shortly arrived informing us that several of these devices had been abraded away by the dust stream they were installed in and spread alpha emissive material throughout their dust extraction systems - not good

We had to return it to the regulatory people (not the supplier) 600 Km away via a special courier who flew up from Brisbane at our expense. As a 'favour' they performed the lab's first 'annual' X-ray safety inspection (of our two X-ray spectrometers) while they were there - we'd been operating six years at that point.

I'm still not sure whether this was bureaucracy gone mad or legitimate care. Either way, there more to anti-static-ing than meets the eye!

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  Grogster said  
  Gizmo said  Impatient to get home, he didn't rinse them properly, so the trays were left with a fine layer of detergent ( which is hydroscopic ). This mean the trays were ever so slightly conductive, and therefore anti-static. The employee was sacked, and the company started making anti-static plastic bags.


Does not compute.

If the trays were not rinsed properly, and therefore anti-static, is that not a GOOD thing?


It was good because they discovered unrinsed trays had antistatic properties, but bad for the employee because his job was to thoroughly rinse the trays, which he didn't do, so he got the sack.
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geraldfryjr

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Posted: 08:01pm 07 Jun 2015
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Try out Licron or Licron "Crystal" from Techspray.
It is not exactly cheap but it works Great!!!

https://www.techspray.com/d-5-licron-crystal.aspx

I have been using it for coating Diaphragms on my DIY ESL's (Electrostatic Loudspeakers for the last 13 years.

It is pretty permanent and has held up after 7 years of deliberate environmental abuse on a couple of my designs and my panels worked flawlessly the First time I fired them back up again after 7 years with no degradation of the coating or the sound that the panel produced before the abuse (heat,road salt, dirt, mud, water).
And still working after 10years.

I have all of this documented over at diyaudio.com under ESL (diaphragm) coatings and many other threads.

https://www.google.com/search?q=licron+site:www.diyaudio.com&num=100&newwindow=1&sa=X&ei=dC91VZq2GcfZsAXR6YKQAQ&ved=0CFs QrQIoBDAH&biw=1152&bih=739



jer :)Edited by geraldfryjr 2015-06-09
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