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srnet
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Posted: 01:59pm 15 Sep 2017
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What LoRa settings were you using ?


$50SAT is Silent but probably still working.
For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/

 
OA47

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Srnet:

Here is the config screen. The only change I have made is the output power which was set at 20dbm out of the packet.



 
Grogster

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Cool, keep us updated!

You would probably increase reliability and range if you drop the "AirRate". It does depend on how many bytes you are sending though.

I eagerly await my 915MHz units to test.
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srnet
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Ah IC.

That effectivly just defines a baud rate, I would have an idea of the potential range if I knew the bandwidth, spreading factor and code rates in use.


$50SAT is Silent but probably still working.
For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/

 
davematt
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Posted: 10:49pm 16 Sep 2017
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Update...
With a 1/4 wave whip transmiiting from 3 metres up I could receive at ground level 3.5 km away, using a small yagi. This was not line of sight, but across open country with just small patches of bush intervening.
I am confident this could be improved, but I ran out of paddock
Message was a short sentence at 2400 baud, seemingly 100% reliable.
Pretty chuffed!
 
OA47

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  Quote  With a 1/4 wave whip transmiiting from 3 metres up I could receive at ground level 3.5 km away, using a small yagi. This was not line of sight, but across open country with just small patches of bush intervening.
I am confident this could be improved, but I ran out of paddock
Message was a short sentence at 2400 baud, seemingly 100% reliable.
Pretty chuffed!

Dave, are you using the 433Mhz units? Your transmission distance is very encouraging.
 
Grogster

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Also, what output power? 10dBm? 20dBm?
Can I assume that you guys are running the modules at 3v3?

Still waiting on my ones to arrive.... *drool*
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davematt
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@Grogster, I'm using 20dBm, haven't investigated power consumption yet. I'm running from 3.3V, but thinking about it, runnning the radio direct from 1 lithium would make more sense. Thoughts anyone?
 
Bill7300
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@Grogster, do you have a link to your source of the 915MHz modules?
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Sure, here you go:

915MHz version of module
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Bill7300
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Thanks. Interesting looking devices.
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CaptainBoing

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sort of related
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170913193030.htm
 
Grogster

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My 915MHz modules have arrived. That's not bad - ten days or so airmail.
They even included two little USB-serial adaptors, which were not in the auction listing - nice touch, and I will use them around the workshop.

I hope to setup a test link with them in the next couple of days, and I also want to put one on the spectrum analyser to see what it's output it like.

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OA47

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I need some help with my LoRa network. As discussed earlier I have set up an in field unit that has the SDI-12 probe interrogated by a Micromite and the information passed back to base over a virtual serial port using the LoRa radio link. This set up has worked flawlessly for some weeks sending back data requests every 10 minutes when polled by the base Visual Basic software.
The Micromite software has the console serial port connected to the radio (my original thoughts were that I could remotely access or modify the MMBasic software via this port) and the software is waiting at an INPUT prompt looking for the ID code of the unit and ignore if not the right one.
The problem I now have is that the network crashes if I have more than one remote unit listening and responding to the ID call. I first thought that I had issues with the power peaks required to transmit back and as mentioned by another poster, I put a 1000UF cap across the power leads of the LoRa units. This did not help so I decided to put a delay in the return transmission (up to 500mS) again no improvement.
I decided to have a play with the settings on the radios firstly dropping the power to the lowest possible and fiddled with other areas that I really don't have a good understanding of, mainly due to the very small amount of explanation in the handbook.
Any suggestions from shedders very welcome.
Graeme
 
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Had another thought that may lead to a solution. Something simple as usual. The non-ID units will be returning the ? prompt and clashing with real data. Was a good idea at the time
 
srnet
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  OA47 said  I decided to have a play with the settings on the radios firstly dropping the power to the lowest possible and fiddled with other areas that I really don't have a good understanding of, mainly due to the very small amount of explanation in the handbook.


I wrote a short introduction to LoRa and how the settings affect range here;

Long Distance Tracking and Monitoring with LoRa - Introduction

See 'What is LoRa?' on page 5
$50SAT is Silent but probably still working.
For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/

 
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