Home
JAQForum Ver 24.01
Log In or Join  
Active Topics
Local Time 06:29 15 Nov 2025 Privacy Policy
Jump to

Notice. New forum software under development. It's going to miss a few functions and look a bit ugly for a while, but I'm working on it full time now as the old forum was too unstable. Couple days, all good. If you notice any issues, please contact me.

Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : New Pi

Author Message
CaptainBoing

Guru

Joined: 07/09/2016
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2171
Posted: 07:51am 20 Oct 2020
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

... ish

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-compute-module-4/
Edited 2020-10-20 17:52 by CaptainBoing
 
robert.rozee
Guru

Joined: 31/12/2012
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2466
Posted: 12:22pm 20 Oct 2020
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

with 8gb RAM, wireless, no onboard EMMC, the price is us$75. add to this $35 for the I/O expander brings the total to us$110 (+cost of an SD card). basically this is a small motherboard with full-sized connectors  for everything, onboard RTC, and a PCIe x1 slot. all powered from 12v:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-4-io-board/



(image from: https://www.raspberrypi.org/app/uploads/2020/10/Module-and-IO-Board-2_-scaled.jpg

this suddenly makes the RPi4 a much more interesting device as a viable intel-PC alternative  


cheers,
rob   :-)
Edited 2020-10-20 22:28 by robert.rozee
 
mclout999

Guru

Joined: 05/07/2020
Location: United States
Posts: 492
Posted: 12:35pm 20 Oct 2020
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

The one drawback is that there are NO USB3 ports.  And that is a deal-breaker for some.  You can add PCIe x1 card but to me, that seems bass-ackwards.
They call me Shai-Hulud (The maker)
 
robert.rozee
Guru

Joined: 31/12/2012
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2466
Posted: 01:13pm 20 Oct 2020
Copy link to clipboard 
Print this post

reading through the documentation, it seems that on the standard RPi4 the PICe port is used to implement the two USB3 ports using a PICe to USB3 bridge, "The PCIe link on the Raspberry Pi 4, Model B is used for the USB  3.0 interface via the VLI805 XHCI  controller. If the application requires USB 3.0 interface then an external XHCI controller is required like the VLI805.". from:
https://datasheets.raspberrypi.org/cm4io/cm4io-datasheet.pdf
found here:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-4-io-board/

incidentally, the I/O expander contains a 4 port USB2 hub: two ports you can see on the edge of the board, a header nearby brings out the other two.

hopefully someone will come up with a cheap custom PCIe x1 expander card that implements USB3 as well as a few SATA ports. or, the plans to the I/O expander are open-source, so anyone could roll their own.


cheers,
rob   :-)
 
Print this page


To reply to this topic, you need to log in.

The Back Shed's forum code is written, and hosted, in Australia.
© JAQ Software 2025