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Frank N. Furter
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Posted: 05:07pm 25 Nov 2021
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Picomite now on Hackaday

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thwill

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I wonder if we need to reinforce the walls of the shed and install some fire prevention measures?
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Mixtel90

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Flameproof underwear all round, folks!
Man the barricades!

I like the comment from "Bill Gates" about doing things in Java. :)
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I love how one guy is saying he tried using BASIC in the 80's, and gave up cos it was crap.
BASIC's back in the 80's WERE kinda crap, and very limited most of the time.
But you can't compare MMBASIC to the BASIC's that were around forty years ago - that's apples and oranges.
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Mixtel90

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I couldn't resist diving in...  :)
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Good post.

The problem I have with sites like Hackaday, is that the comments sections are infested with "Ever-lasting know-it-alls".  People who will just rubbish anything they see that they don't like, without ever having even USED one etc.

"That's a dumb idea, so I'm gonna run it into the ground" kind of mentality, when they really have no idea at all what they are talking about.

I guess that is where the flameproof undies come into it!  

One comment by scruss2 criticizing this forum and saying there is no moderation is total bollocks.  The forum runs fine, and Gizmo is EXTREMELY pro-active at policing the forums.  Just the other day he nuked a spamming account, and that is usually done within a day or so of the problem posts showing up.  Not moderated?!

I hope that isn't OUR scruss member, cos that would be a shame.
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Mixtel90

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There may be no obvious formal mods, but that doesn't mean that the forum is unmoderated. :) It's actually self-moderating, which is better IMHO. I noticed that Scruss2 also complained about the forum software and its editor. TBH I thought that was a bit much. Ok, so the editor complains about non-ASCII characters but so what? I rather like the forum software. It adds a nice vintage feel - and I'm definitely vintage. :)
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lizby
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  Quote   . . . also complained about the forum software and its editor


One thing not noted. This is not an MMBasic forum. It's a windmills plus solar plus EVs plus electronics plus PCB manufacturing plus Microcontrollers and PC projects forum. MMBasic issues predominate in the Microcontrollers section, but non-mmbasic and non-microcontroller issues/questions/posts arise too.

The size of the forum is fine with me, and the quality of the supportive posts is outstanding. Beginners can get the help they need (if they can find us in the first place ;-\ ), and truly expert assistance is often available for the harder questions, however far afield they may range.

Maybe it's an acquired taste.
 
cdeagle
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Posted: 10:40am 27 Nov 2021
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Also on Hackster News

https://www.hackster.io/news/picomite-project-ports-mmbasic-to-the-raspberry-pi-pico-boasts-broad-hardware-support-27dacf636c5e
 
electricat

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Posted: 09:37am 29 Nov 2021
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Most problems rises due firmware in brains :D
If one can see only black and white e.i. Python or C and nothing else, then he might update firmware to see full gamut.
Also brains are flexible. I do not feel much discomfort of how forum is organized.
And I am very happy we have skilled people here and nice, fast support.

All one need - buy parts, build devices, read datasheets, nicely written user manuals, think a bit, write programs comfort way and spread the good news :D

Yes. Some of my close friends will be surprised this Christmas as they will get nice gifts from me (CMM2, Picomites :D you know)
 
SimpleSafeName

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  electricat said  Yes. Some of my close friends will be surprised this Christmas as they will get nice gifts from me (CMM2, Picomites :D you know)


I just want to remind you that we've been friends for a very long time.


The new Mechanical/Controls engineer who was hired here recently was a bit surprised when I told her that "No, Python is not used in the Controls world. We still use BASIC." :)


In all fairness she was trained to be a Mechanical engineer and has been thrust into the Controls arena (where she is doing quite well). So I didn't expect her to know this. :)

The other programming language in the PLC world is Pascal-ish. Rockwell .L5K files are an example of that. But that's one small exception in the bigger scheme of things.

A random (Pascal) example from a PLC:

ROUTINE x980_MM_Msg_RetrySearch
RC: "$N"
                   "**************************************************************************************************$N"
                   "Build a unique list of MM targets that need to have their state data resent, due to a messaging error$N"
                   "This routine is called from a JSR in routine $'MM_Msg_Send$'$N"
                   "**************************************************************************************************$N"
                   "$N"
                   "Reset the found bit and FIFO search pointer";
N: OTU(Msg_MM_SearchFound)MOV(0,DLoc08);
RC: "Search the FIFO to see if the index to see if the index of the errored target is already loaded.$N"
                   "Loop only to the size of the FIFO.";
N: LBL(LBL02)EQU(MMToMsg,QAS_PodToMsgRetryFIFO[DLoc08])OTL(Msg_MM_SearchFound);
N: LES(DLoc08,QAS_FifoCtl[4].POS)ADD(1,DLoc08,DLoc08)JMP(LBL02);
RC: "If the target index was not found in the FIFO, load it and increment the FIFO .POS indicator";
N: XIO(Msg_MM_SearchFound)LES(QAS_FifoCtl[4].POS,320)MOV(QAS_FifoCtl[4].POS,DLoc07)[MOV(MMToMsg,QAS_MMToMsgRetryFIFO[DLoc07]) ,ADD(1,QAS_FifoCtl[4].POS,QAS_FifoCtl[4].POS) ];
END_ROUTINE
 
Mixtel90

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Most of the stuff I did on PLCs was ladder or, on the intelligent relays, drag and drop logic. The first one was a Merlin Gerin beast, with the processor built on about 4 cards of TTL. That was programmed in an odd sort of textual ladder. I never got to play with PLC Pascal.
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