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WhiteWizzard
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Posted: 07:30am 11 Feb 2025

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I am about to buy a wireless gamepad; however, before I spend too much money I am first wanting to ensure that whatever I purchase will definitely work with the PicoMite.

So, this is to ask if anyone out there has successfully used a WIRELESS gamepad with their PicoMite.

My preference is a branded version such as the one below. The manual refers to PS3 and PS4 controllers so I’m guessing it should work.

Any confirmation about experiences with this specific model, or indeed with any other one, would be great to hear about.

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Posted: 07:42am 11 Feb 2025

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I believe that is a Bluetooth controller and not supported by PicoMite.

I think that currently the PicoMiteUSB firmwares only supports wired dual-shock PS 3 & 4 controllers (may need to be official to report correct vid and pid) and a couple of random SNES lookalike USB gamepads.

Best wishes,

Tom
Edited 2025-02-11 17:45 by thwill

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WhiteWizzard
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Posted: 08:02am 11 Feb 2025

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Hi Tom,

You are correct in that it has Bluetooth connectivity, but also in the specs it mentions microUSB too (possibly via a dongle?).

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Posted: 08:24am 11 Feb 2025

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Buy a second hand genuine PS3 or PS4 controller and use it wired. Then it will work. Anything else you are on your own and not supported

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Posted: 09:04am 11 Feb 2025

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@Peter,

Time for another question:

If I were to load the USBHDMI firmware onto a Pico, would a wired Gamepad be recognised if I plug it directly into the Pico’s microUSB port (and use a serial console for communicating with Pico from TeraTerm).

Not sure if the Pico expects to see a keyboard as a minimum as device 1 and only sees Gamepad on a ‘hub’ if a keyboard is present.

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Posted: 09:07am 11 Feb 2025

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Yes, as long as you power the Pico separately on VBUS

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Posted: 09:11am 11 Feb 2025

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WhiteWizzard said ... but also in the specs it mentions microUSB too (possibly via a dongle?).

I'm not personally familiar with the PS 3/4 but if it is anything like the the PS 5 or various generations of XBOX controllers then there is a USB port on the controller allowing you to wire it directly to a USB port on the console both to charge the controller's battery and ALSO as a wired data connection.

Best stick to official wired PS 3/4 controllers as Peter said.

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Tom

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Posted: 09:24am 11 Feb 2025

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Tom

I'm away from home at the moment and don't have all my toys. In B10 there is a new function DEVICE(GAMEPAD n,RAW)
This returns a string containing the raw data returned in the USB report. For most controllers this will be 8 bytes long. Please could you have a look at this with your Buffalo and see if it works. The firmware polls the controller every 20 milliseconds so this value will update at that frequency.

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Posted: 11:07am 11 Feb 2025

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Thanks Peter,

But unless I was misunderstanding your instructions something looks borked:

Note that I think the "Generic Gamepad" reported on channel 3 is a "hallucination" that having the keyboard attached is producing.

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Tom
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Its binary data

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Posted: 11:40am 11 Feb 2025

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matherp said Its binary data

Ah, I thought it would be hex encoded ... I'll deal with it ;-)

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Sorry Peter, but unless I'm having some sort of psychotic break there is something both a bit "fu" and also more than little bit "bar" in this firmware:

Something is tramping over c$

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Tom

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Posted: 12:21pm 11 Feb 2025

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Possible adaptation?

Disclaimer: I know nothing about this stuff (but I could see myself getting sucked-in if we can do wireless)

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OK I think I understand. I'll post an updated test version for you VGAUSB RP20240?

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Posted: 12:35pm 11 Feb 2025

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matherp said OK I think I understand. I'll post an updated test version for you VGAUSB RP2040?

Correct.

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PicoMiteRP2040VGAUSBV6.00.02b10.zip

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Posted: 10:47am 12 Feb 2025

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matherp said PicoMiteRP2040VGAUSBV6.00.02b10.zip

Thanks Peter, have replied in the more appropriate thread:
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?PID=234149#234149#234149

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Tom

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Posted: 11:08am 12 Feb 2025

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WhiteWizzard said I am about to buy a wireless gamepad; however, before I spend too much money I am first wanting to ensure that whatever I purchase will definitely work with the PicoMite.

So, this is to ask if anyone out there has successfully used a WIRELESS gamepad with their PicoMite.

Hi WhiteWizzard,

I successfully used an EasySMX PS3 Controller (2,4G Wireless), the brand still exists but the controller is not available any more. This is the thread.

I needed to modify the firmware and I think these modifications are still in the current USB version. It's really messy, because at least this controller can "pose" as different gamepads and the interaction between the controller and the PicoMiteUSB is therefore a bit unpredictable ... Not a permanent solution.

I also tried out other wireless controllers (including original Sony ones) but the newer ones are typically bluetooth and a BT dongle at the PicoMiteUSB does not work (at least at the time when I last tried).

Best
Thomas

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