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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : Programming microcontrollers in Pascal
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| Olimex Senior Member  Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
Yet another great product from Australia 
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donmck Guru  Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1310 |
We sell a lite edition with the purchase of selected Olimex boards for $1 extra: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/astrobe-arm-software-developm ent-system.html Cheers Don... https://www.32v8.com/1 |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3660 |
If it's going to catch on it has a bit of a cliff to climb! John |
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| Olimex Senior Member Joined: 02/10/2011 Location: BulgariaPosts: 226 |
What is remarkable is that the completely IDE installation is 2MB vs 100MB+ installation for the Arduino/Maple/Pinguino. I like this very much! I saw the examples and the code generation is also impressive. The Blnk LED example compiles in just 164 bytes of memory! (just compare this again with Arduino/Pinguino/Maple code generation size  ) |
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djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
I want Oberon/Pascal for Olinuxuino VK4MU MicroController Units |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3660 |
Imagine almost any p-code type system. The compiled sample will be similarly tiny. Or any true compiled system that uses shared libraries. C's main() compiles to a small size. But in each case you're ignoring the other stuff that's needed at runtime. There again, if you're happy using that language (Oberon/whatever), fine. It doesn't appear to be open source, which some want - especially when the company behind it may or may not exist in a few years or may have moved to other products. John |
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| cfbsoftware Newbie  Joined: 20/06/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 3 |
[quote]Imagine almost any p-code type system. The compiled sample will be similarly tiny.[/quote] There is just no comparison with p-code systems as they are typically only 10% as efficient as native code compiled systems. The Oberon compiler used in Astrobe generates native 32-bit ARM code for the ARM7 targets or native Thumb2 code for Cortex-M3 targets. If you want to learn about the architecture of the Oberon compiler and get some understanding of how it compiles so fast and still generates very compact code read Niklaus Wirth's document "An Oberon Compiler for the ARM Processor". He goes into great detail explaining the code that is generated for each language construct: http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/Articles/Oberon.html We have been working with Oberon systems since the early 1990's. Our original Astrobe work involved porting Wirth's ARM compiler to Windows for the ARM7 version back in 2008. More recently we have completed rewriting the code generator for the totally different Thumb-2 instruction set for the Cortex-M3 targets. As well as producing more compact code we are now seeing execution speeds about 3x faster. Cheers, Chris Chris Burrows http://www.astrobe.com |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Well, if you like Pascal, specially Turbo Passcal, here are two options for Microchip microcontrollers. One is commercial and I think anyone knows about it - mikroPascal, and another is about Pic Micro Pascal (PMP), free of charge and no limits imposed to the generated code. PMP is for PIC12-PIC18 only, and mikroe support also the other Microchip families, Atmel AVRs, 8051, ARM. For 8051 microcontrollers, there is a very good Turbo Pascal like compiler, turbo51 (command line only, but you can use a third party editor or IDE). Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3660 |
For me, C beats all these hands down. YMMV. John |
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| cfbsoftware Newbie Joined: 20/06/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 3 |
There has also been an ISO Modula-2 (son of Pascal, father of Oberon) compiler available for some time for the 8051: mod51 Chris Burrows http://www.astrobe.com |
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