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| DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member  Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
Rikomagic MK802 blows Raspberry Pi and Olimex Olinuxino away! 
This mini PC has a professional designed enclosure. On the other two computers they cost extra $$$. 
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http://rikomagic.co.uk/forum http://youtu.be/bxvzDqp0Wvk http://youtu.be/ZDyBs6Wuu1o  |
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donmck Guru  Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1310 |
Andy, you compare it to RPi and OlinuXino so: Will it run Linux out of the box like RPi and OlinuXino do? How many GPIO pins does it have? 5V2A? Without the remote control,pls purchase wirless mouse or fly mouse additional? Please contact us if you require an invoice adjustment for custom purposes. Adjustment? I suppose I better order one of those too.
Feed back comments on that sales page you quoted, don't help sell the device. Cheers Don... https://www.32v8.com/1 |
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| DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
Andy, you compare it to RPi and OlinuXino so:
Yep. Its a PC. Since both the RPi and OlinuXino are also PCs then the "general comparsion" would OK. Don, you know its extremely hard to compare unlike "exact" computers BUT the Rikomagic MK802 has many features the Rpi and Olimex cannot match in light years. 
Will it run Linux out of the box like RPi and OlinuXino do?
Quote from Rikomagic forum ... Hi, theres a lot of interest in getting Linux running on this device and the news is that it should be possible soon. We are looking into this now.
How many GPIO pins does it have?
Zero, but you can easily use USB I/O. Most PCs don't have GPIO. I believe the RPi is using an external Arduino board as GPIO. 5V2A?
That's the spec. voltage from the AC wall/wart with the amps. Without the remote control,pls purchase wirless mouse or fly mouse additional?
Translation ... The Rikomagic MK802 does NOT come with a mouse/keyboard, just like the RPi and Olimex. You have to buy one.
Don, you know that the website is Chinese and this product is made in China. The UK RPi and the Bulgarian Olimex is competing against the Rikomagic MK802 and I believe will lose to this low cost producer! Please contact us if you require an invoice adjustment for custom purposes.
Adjustment? I suppose I better order one of those too They are saying "for custom features, on the Rikomagic MK802, you have to pay extra."
Rikomagic MK802 features: OS Android 4.0 Main Chip --> Allwinner A10/ 1GHz Cortex-A8 Memory 512MB --> newer models after June/12 will have 1GB for ~ $10 extra Storage: 4GB Graphical processor: 2D/ 3D/ OpenGL ES2.0(AMD Z430)/ OpenVG1.1(AMD Z160) 27M Tri/sec Network: Wireless 802.11b/g/n, WAPI(Ralink8188) Expand Memory: Micro TF 2-32GB IO/Ports: Micro 5pin USB/ USB2.0 data transfer/ OTG and host expand Keyboard: Support virtual keyboard, support 2.4G wireless keyboard, fly mouse Audio: AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A Video: WMV/ASF/MP4/3GP/3G2M4V/AVI/MJPEG/RV10/DivX/VC-1/MPEG-2/ MPEG-4/H.263/H.264/1280*720P HD 30 fps, 1080P/720*480 D1 30fps Andriod APP: Youku,Tudou,QQ,Youtube,Twitter,AngryBird,Office,Gmail,Browse ,Skype???? HDMI: 1080P&2160P Power Input: 5V2A Size: 8.8*3.5*1.2cm Weight: 0.2kg Vendor Rikomagic MK802 link: http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/563764893-Freeshipping- MK802-Mini-PC-Mini-Android4-0-dongle-android-IPTV-google-tv- smart-android-box-allwinner-wholesalers.html
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| donmck Guru Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1310 |
I think I am coming to better grips with it Andy, just checked the video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BiYK1 Hfy8X4#! This video even strips down the unit. Basically it is an Android 4.0 system supported on a minimal hardware platform. No phone, no tablet, so you need a keyboard, possibly mouse, and video monitor, as well as a power source of 5V@2A either via the DC jack, or the USB mini plug. I see it as a potential platform for home entertainment systems, and possibly as a PC when they get Linux going on it. Which I am sure they will do. And yes the footprint and price is nice. To use it like an Android tablet or iPAD however, means you need to cart the peripherals with you, or have them available when you get to where you are going. Is this basically the main thrust of the unit? Cheers Don... https://www.32v8.com/1 |
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| DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
No phone, no tablet, so you need a keyboard, possibly mouse, and video monitor, as well as a power source of 5V@2A either via the DC jack, or the USB mini plug.
To use it like an Android tablet or iPAD however, means you need to cart the peripherals with you, or have them available when you get to where you are going.
Is this basically the main thrust of the unit?
Hmmmm ... Just like the RPi and Olinuxion - they are all PCs, BUT The Olinuxion does have GPIO but having "off the shelf" software to control this GPIO is very problematic. Olimex is NOT an experienced software vendor so they "open source" their software, which is another means of letting others do their job for them. Quality control suffers with "open source"
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5019 |
Yeah I'll agree with that, just look at Linux!  , thats bound to raise a few eyebrows! Just stiring the pot, back on topic now.
The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
If anyone needs Cheap Android solution, why not buy one of the many <$100USD Android tablets available from China. Tiny, built-in touchscreen, camera, apps and way more built-in IO capability than the RIKOMagic. RIKOMagic , Maximite, Olixuino, RPi, are all competing in DIFFERENT Niches. The Rikomagic is NOT an alternative for any of the Rasberry Pi, Maximite/Duinomite or Olixuino platforms. Comparisions and "Mine is bigger than yours" arguments are pointless. All of them have application in their respective intended areas of usage. And I would rather have a Chinese or Bulgarian designed and manufactured product than any made or designed in the UK. Even the RPi is made in China. VK4MU MicroController Units |
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| donmck Guru Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1310 |
That was the point I was trying to make David, thanks: http://www.httbuy.com/icoo-d50-lite-a13-version-android-4.0- tablet-pc-7-inch-4gb-camera-white.html With Android latest 4.0.3, capacitive screen, and absolutely packed with features. Cheers Don... https://www.32v8.com/1 |
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| DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
The Rikomagic is NOT an alternative for any of the Rasberry Pi, Maximite/Duinomite or Olixuino platforms. Comparisions and "Mine is bigger than yours" arguments are pointless
Comparisions and "Mine is bigger than yours" arguments are pointless
Like I said (above) they are ALL PCs
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| djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
I actually prefer Apple Pie. (Ipad) or an Aussie Meat Pie. (maximite) Rather than some stodgy, tasteless, stale Pommy Pork Pie. (RPi) VK4MU MicroController Units |
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| DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
Rather than some stodgy, tasteless, stale Pommy Pork Pie. (RPi)
I also, don't like the RPi due to the Broadcom motherboard chip.  |
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Nick Guru Joined: 09/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 512 |
Is it a Maximite (or clone)? No? Not interested then.  |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5019 |
Keep it nice guys, just because its not a Maximite or is lacking in I/O, doesn't mean other people dont find it interesting. I dont think you can compare it to a Raspberry Pi or a Olimex Olinuxino or a Maximite, its different, but still its cheap and has potential in other ways. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| djuqa Guru Joined: 23/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 447 |
Exactly my point. All the various devices mentioned have specific Niches. The Android PC on a USB key or the raspberry Pi were never intended to be a replacement for the type of device the BRILLIANT Maximite/Duinomite was designed for. Any comparisions are pointless. Like saying F1 car is better than a 4WD or a Camry. Not if you are going west of Bourke or driving down to the Shops it isn't. VK4MU MicroController Units |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3661 |
I'd LOVE to take an F1 car to the shops!! Lend me one? On computers: I suppose most people on here want GPIO rather than USB and then interfacing that to GPIO. John |
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| rhamer Senior Member Joined: 06/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 174 |
There are lots of different devices, all different and all good. We should be applauding the diversity. I have a liking for the .net micro framework devices, in particular the NetDuino Plus. You can program it in c# or VB.net straight out of visual studio. And yes it has I/O in the pseudo standard Arduino footprint. Cheers Rohan Rohan Hamer HAMFIELD Software & Hardware Solutions Makers of the Maximite Expander. http://www.hamfield.com.au |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Yes, but that is not all. If a smartphone or a tablet have bluetooth device included and accessible as a serial comm then, yes, I find it interesting and good to have. Is a nice way to connect a microcontroller board with a little PC. As for small single board computers, I prefer those with a serial port on board and having Windows rather than Linux 'cause I find that the potential clients are more accustomed with a Windows than anything (in general, Linux people can also deal with all kind of electronic projects - you can't have clients in that zone). Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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boss Senior Member Joined: 19/08/2011 Location: CanadaPosts: 268 |
Hello, MK802 seems to be an excellent choice as a second computer or as a portable device which you can carry anywhere you want to go (together with wifi portable keyboard/touchpad). This device definitely is not suitable for industrial processes or control so this is no competition to the MM. Mine should arrive on June 22nd. |
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| DuinoMiteMegaAn Senior Member Joined: 17/11/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 231 |
This device definitely is not suitable for industrial processes or control
Neither is the MaxiMite or DuinoMite. They are good basic controllers but using them in an "industrial environment" where machinery and human lifes are at stake is not recommended. |
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| boss Senior Member Joined: 19/08/2011 Location: CanadaPosts: 268 |
Hello, I have tell to you that you are wrong (except life support equipments). With more than 20 years of experience in industrial enviroment I can confirm that this concept is highly common, http://www.mbbnet.umn.edu/company_folder/blueearth.html their 8052 micro with enhanced "INTEL Basic" is still working in many applications. And I have plan to use an enhanced PIC32 board for "NAVY" project. Regards boss |
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