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Grogster

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Posted: 02:55pm 29 Aug 2014
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  bigmik said  One thing I have learned by doing PCBs is that no matter how full your layout is you can always squeeze something else in.

Mick


Well, that is certainly true - look at what you came up with. Although, I will have to get a track over there somehow for the 5v input.
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  bigmik said   Hi Grogster,

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Please note that in this board, BOTH the top and bottom ground-planes are at ground potential. The top copper layer GP is not at 3v3, as might be expected with a double-sided GP board.


I usually do the same.. I like GND top AND bottom as I feel that it is better for shielding.. plus I feel having 5v on the top plane is risky and more likely to to short to metal connector shells etc.

Mick



Yeah, it just always seems to me, that you need more ground connections then supply connections! Making the top and bottom GP ground, gives you heaps and heaps of connections to ground. I just mentioned that, as I know that in some designs, it is perhaps more "Normal" to use the bottom GP as ground, and the top GP as the supply voltage.
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A thought would be to connect 'analog ground' to 1 side and 'digital ground' to the other . Only have them join back as near power in as possible. That might? give better resolution to analog measurements and quieter output on TONE and PWM ????
 
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Posted: 08:54pm 29 Aug 2014
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@ hitsware - good idea if I was needing either TONE or PWM on this board, but I am not. Perfectly valid comment, though.

Here is the latest attempt:

TOP COPPER:



BOTTOM COPPER:



Prompted by Mick's example, I have managed to squeeze in the two pull-up resistors on the keyboard lines. I had to have a single wire link on the bottom of the board - could not find a way to get the track back to the input connector without hitting another track somewhere!

I also added a Schottky diode on the bottom, as reverse polarity protection on the input voltage.(this required moving the 100n cap from the bottom, to the top layer)


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Posted: 12:35pm 30 Aug 2014
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Hi Grogster,

I cant do a photoshop mockup as i am interstate and only have an iPad with me..

But, can you not squash the two tracks above the Vreg a wee bit, the top track of the two can go closer to the crystal, the gap between them have a double up of the clearance and can be closed to the standard gap,
The Vreg can be pushed down slightly.. That will enable 5v track from vreg to go to the left of the vertical track 3v3 the two resistors may then straddle the 3v3 track instead of your gnd pour,

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Nice spotting - will make those changes later today.

Thanks.
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OK, here is the new bottom copper layer:



I think we have everything in there now!
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Grog,

Looks good now..

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