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| hitsware Guru  Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
.....like MMBasic than PicAxe Basic ..... that will work with the 08M2 type chips ? |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9502 |
There is Great Cow Basic, but I have no idea if it can be implemented on little 8-pin DIL PIC's - I'd have to have a read, but I do remember reading good things about GCB on the forums. I just use PICAXE when I need a little 8-pinner. Are you having issues with PICAXE? Can I help? ...I have used all the PICAXE's from the 08 right up to the 40-pin DIL, so I might be able to help you, if your problem happens to be PICAXE-related... Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
> Are you having issues with PICAXE? For the PWM frequency ..... If that could be simply expressed in Hertz / Second > Can I help? Please do  |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9502 |
The PICAXE programming editor has a nice tool for this kind of thing: PICAXE/Wizzards/pwmout Plop your wanted frequency in there as Hz, click the calculate button, and that should generate the line of code you need. 
The MicroMite PWM command is easier, I grant you.... Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
> The MicroMite PWM command is easier, I grant you.... That's what I mean ! What the world needs is MMBasic for 8 pin chips ! Maybe even 08M2's ? |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9502 |
LOL - I hear you! 
However, I would not let the fact that you might need to run the PWM wizzard, put you off using the PICAXE 8-pin chip. I guess that it is up to you. The PICAXE 08M2 is a 12F1840, so according to Great Cow Basic website, you can run it on those little chips, but I myself have never tried it. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6224 |
I decided that a PicAxe was just right for a small job so I dusted off the Editor. I even downloaded the new V6 programming editor to have a play. I know I am a little bit biased but I was dismayed at the lack of programmers tools compared to MMEdit. OK it does have a simulator but the basic writing code is primitive. Jim VK7JH MMedit |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2927 |
Hey, I can cut off 20-pins from a 28-pin MicroMite if thats any help - simply let me know which 8-pins you need  .
Seriously though; why not use a SOIC MicroMite on an 8-pin DIL Break-Out-Board if space is the issue! Just thinking 'outside the box' WW |
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| TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6224 |
PicAxe's can run on 5V which can interface easily and very low power drain. The micromite has made a big difference in the imbed-ability of the maximite but there are still places where the processing power is not needed. Jim VK7JH MMedit |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9502 |
The SOIC 28-pin chip is bigger then an 8-pin DIL. 
Not by much, but it is bigger(read: longer). You could always go to SSOP...
Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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kiiid Guru Joined: 11/05/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 671 |
Maybe this one too: http://www.oshonsoft.com/pic16.html I see it runs on 12F1840. Never tried it myself, though. http://rittle.org -------------- |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2927 |
Thats what I meant - oohps I can't spell SSOP! Got one here in front of me next to a BIGGER 8-pin DIL. With a BOB, you would need 2 pins for power, 2 for console (which can be jumpered between console pins and I/O pins) and then this leaves 4 dedicated I/O pins. Is there a market for this?
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| hitsware Guru Joined: 23/11/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 535 |
> if space is the issue! It's not the space . It's the elegance of 8 legs if that's all that's needed . |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9502 |
You can't spell Opps either!!! 
Quite possibly, I think there could be a market for this. The SSOP package would allow you to make 8's 14's and 18's for those who wanted a smaller number of IO pins for space reasons or otherwise. Perhaps you or I should have a go at designing a PCB? Even with SSOP, it would be a squeeze to keep within DIL spacing, but I don't doubt that it could be done. EDIT: SSOP is too big for standard skinny DIL, so we'd have to move to the QFN package, which is about 5mm square, with 0.5mm pin spacing - that's getting a bit fiddly though. EDIT: I think I might have a go at this, just for something to play around with. I will start by designing an 8-pin uM, then I can simply scale up the design for 14 pin and 18 pin. These modules will use the tiny QFN package, and the final PCB size will be standard skinny DIL pinout. I will have a play around with the PCB design tonight, and if it looks like I am getting somewhere, I will start a new thread for them. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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