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TassyJim

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Posted: 06:53pm 04 May 2016

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Looking for testers of a few updates to MMEdit.

Changes in this update
New item in the connect menu - "load and run".
This is the same as pressing the button but is easier to get to if you have a narrow display.

A new 'Macro' menu in the editor
This is the same as the macro menu in the Chat window with two additions. Set clock and Set RTC
Macros are still defined in the Chat window.
If you are setting the Clock or RTC from MMEdit, you should make sure that you know how accurate your PC clock is.
PC clocks can easily be out by a few seconds a day and Windows Time only sets your clock ever week or so.
I recommend using NTP https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_stable
or NetTime http://www.timesynctool.com/

Macros will connect to the current device if needed but it is best if the Chat window is open so you can monitor any responses.

In the Advanced menu there is a new item "auto INCLUDE on load". This option runs the merge includes before every 'load and run' The original BAS file in the editor is not changed.

I still have a few more bits to tidy up and the help file to update before I update my website version.
For now, extract the TKN file for the attached ZIP and replace the one in the program folder.

Now would be a good time to point out any omissions in the syntax files - I always miss a few keywords.

2016-05-05_045212_MMedit.zip

Jim

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drkl

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Posted: 07:21pm 04 May 2016

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Hello,

Thank you Jim (particularly for the new place of Load and Run)

I try and test the new version

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Posted: 01:22am 05 May 2016

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Hi Jim,

.tkn file extensions are not one I'm familiar with & at 164k it's not a full installer.....

Then I went up & read you post properly mid post....

Will drop it in & give it a try.

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Posted: 01:39am 05 May 2016

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Macro | Run returned an error for me:-

Can't find the location of the log file though.

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Posted: 12:05pm 05 May 2016

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Thanks Phil, This version has the typo fixed.
Copy and paste is always a risky operation.

2016-05-05_220320_MMedit.zip

If you are looking for the error log, it is under the Help menu. Not that it is of much use most of the time.

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Posted: 11:19am 13 May 2016

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Hi Jim,

MMedit all fell over on me a while ago.
Was working fine, I just made a few changes in code, which uploaded Ok, then it all crashed when I tried to run it.

If I opening it with a blank screen & no file loaded, try to open MMchat, I get a procession of errors straight away.

Cleared the error log & ran the process again & this is what the log reports if it's any help.

Also notice after it's crashed that there is still 2 instances of MMedit.exe running in Task Manager.

First reinstall didn't resolve the problem,
Second reinstall where I also cleared the contents of Appdata resolved the issue.

[Code]Log file deleted May 14, 2016 06:51:43

Error log timestamp Saturday 14/05/16 06:51:58 AM

Runtime error: wait not allowed during call-back

Error(Exception)>>defaultAction
Error(Exception)>>activateHandler: <anUndefinedObject>
Error(Exception)>>handle
Error(Exception)>>signal
Error class(Exception class)>>signal: <'wait not allowed dur...'>
Semaphore(Object)>>error: <'wait not allowed dur...'>
Semaphore>>wait
NotificationManager>>runPeek
NotificationManager>>runEventLoop
Message>>perform
Message>>evaluate
Process>>safelyEvaluate: <aMessage>
Process>>evaluate: <aMessage>
[/code]

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Posted: 11:55am 13 May 2016

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The error log gives me something to look for.

If you had to delete the appdata folder, it suggests that one of the configuration files was corrupt or had a bad setting.

Because the error occurred when you connected to the device, I am guessing that it was a communications setting that MMEdit was not happy with.

If it happens again, please keep a copy of the appdata folder so I can check it's contents.

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Posted: 12:16pm 13 May 2016

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Hi Jim,

I did just that in case.

Here's the files left behind after the uninstall

Cheers

Phil

Might add, my Wifi Access point I was connected to does a scheduled reboot at 5:00am.

At that time I was probably working & my data is on a network drive, so there may have be a temporary loss of connectivity.

Not sure that's the case but will throw it into the mix.Edited by Phil23 2016-05-14

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Posted: 01:09pm 13 May 2016

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Network drives can cause problems but I doubt if it is the culprit.
I can't see any issues in the file you provided.

The file I was really hoping for was 'locate.inf'

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Posted: 02:24pm 13 May 2016

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Hi Jim,

Presume Bookmarks are not saved?

Don't see any relevant inf files.

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Posted: 02:30pm 13 May 2016

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TassyJim said
The file I was really hoping for was 'locate.inf'
Jim

I see it now, but presume it was removed during the uninstall.

Not in deleted files either.
Will keep it in mind if the issues arises again.

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Posted: 12:20pm 16 May 2016

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Hi Jim,

From the MMedit help file:-

The up and down arrows will scroll through the last ~30 lines sent. Once the required line is found, you can edit it before sending.

Has adding a drop down box listing these commands be considered?

Don't know if it's a major or minor issue to implement, but could be desirable.

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Posted: 12:47pm 16 May 2016

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Phil23 said
Has adding a drop down box listing these commands be considered?

No.

The Chat window struggles to handle the comms as it is. I am not keen to add too much more to it until a full rewrite happens, and that is still a long way off.

The arrows is the standard method for both Windows and Linux consoles.
If there are commands you use regularly, save them as a macro.

Jim

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Posted: 08:48pm 19 May 2016

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@TassyJim

Would it be possible to have MMEdit display the current position of the cursor on the line, in the blank toolbar area on the right (assuming you have the window sized sufficiently wide)?
Something like the example in the image below (highlighted in green). Its not a biggie, but it would make it really easy to keep comments at the right side of the code all starting in the same column.

Thanks,
Phil.

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Posted: 09:45pm 19 May 2016

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erbp said @TassyJim

Would it be possible to have MMEdit display the current position of the cursor on the line,
Thanks,
Phil.

It would be nice but the current versions of MMEdit are struggling enough to keep up with keyboard entry.
I am not keen on slowing things down any further.

It is something that is in the list for the (long way away) new version which is built with a much faster programming language.

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Posted: 01:51pm 21 May 2016

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Seems like sometimes MMchat window size & position isn't saved.

Resizing & positioning seems to stick for a which & at some time change.

May be related to switching form VT to ASCII, but not sure.

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Posted: 10:30pm 21 May 2016

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@erbp
I have done some experimenting and I can put a marker line at any, user selected column.
Not what you asked for but it can be used as a marker for aligning comments.
It won't have any adverse effects on the speed of the program.

@Phil23
The window position is saved (but not to disk) every time it is moved or resized.

I think you are experiencing another case of MMEdit being pushed to it's limit.

I will change things so that the main keyboard and comms loop is disabled while resizing. That might make things easier but it also might have other undesirable consequences.

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Posted: 12:10am 22 May 2016

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@TassyJim
The marker line idea would be great. In fact it may be even easier to use than having the cursor position displayed. Thanks!

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