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lew247

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Posted: 07:32am 19 Jun 2016

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This is going to seem a stupid question for you experts in Pic programming and so on but to me it's a blank

How do I work out what size a program will take once it's programmed into the micromite?
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how do I know if I will need a 28 pin Micromite or a Micromite + ?

The reason I ask is I tried loading part of the weather program into the micromite today and it failed with the error not enough memory or words to that effect
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Phil23
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Posted: 11:06am 19 Jun 2016

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Try typing memory at a prompt to see what is used & available with different bits of code.

I was playing with some code that I'd heavily added bits to, commented bits out, duplicated bits with different scenarios....

It was using 76% in the MX170.

Used the "Crunch Option" in MMedit to strip it all down & it was heaps smaller.

Don't remember figures.

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Posted: 05:12pm 19 Jun 2016

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Often memory is used up by fonts and in that case you can load the fonts first and save them in the library (LIBRARY SAVE). That compresses the font and saves a lot of memory.

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lew247

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Posted: 08:36pm 19 Jun 2016

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Thanks Geoff and Phil23

Phil23
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Posted: 09:43pm 19 Jun 2016

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Geoffg said Often memory is used up by fonts and in that case you can load the fonts first and save them in the library (LIBRARY SAVE).
Geoff

When you say "Load them First" how is that achieved?

Does it mean you load a BAS file that contains only the fonts, with say MMedit, and then issue the LIBRARY SAVE command at the prompt?

IE,

[Code]
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
' embedded fonts
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

' Font: Hom_16x24_LE
' Includes all ASCII characters
DefineFont #2
5F201810 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80010000 80018001
80018001 80018001 00018001 00010001 00000000 80010000 00008001 00000000
...
...
...
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 98190C0F 0000F030
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
End DefineFont
[/code]

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Phil.

palcal

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Posted: 10:07pm 19 Jun 2016

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Phil,
Yes that is exactly how it is done.
Paul.

"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all"

Phil23
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Posted: 10:10pm 19 Jun 2016

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Please ignore the above....

I just read the manual.

Thanks.

mikeb

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Posted: 09:47am 20 Jun 2016

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Geoff must be getting tired of us saying 'We just read the manual'

There are 10 kinds of people in the world.
Those that understand binary and those that don't.

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Posted: 03:48pm 20 Jun 2016

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Phil23 said Please ignore the above....

I just read the manual.

Thanks.

LOL!!!!

We've all been there, Phil.
Welcome to the club.

Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops!

palcal

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Posted: 08:08pm 20 Jun 2016

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WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS READ THE INSTRUCTION BOOK.
Paul.

"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all"

mikeb

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Posted: 05:28pm 22 Jun 2016

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Hi all,

If I am guilty, in future, don't waste your time with an explanation. Just respond with 'RTFM'. Not looking for a quick answer but a 'pointer' in the right direction.
I certainly won't take offence.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world.
Those that understand binary and those that don't.

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Posted: 10:09pm 22 Jun 2016

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I have been working with MMs from the early days, and have written & developed many programs for literally hundreds of MMs. However, I still refer to the excellent manual at least twice a day and often learn something new!

Do not underestimate the manual's content (even if you think you 'know it all'). Geoff has created a masterpiece IMHO. Not too complicated, enough detail, and great examples.

May not be to everyones 'format' - but at least refer to it first if you are stuck with something.

All that said, if you are a 'beginner', the manual can seem daunting (but still worth a read

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