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jman![]() Guru ![]() Joined: 12/06/2011 Location: New ZealandPosts: 711 |
Hi To make it easier to use WiFi with the E100 Grogster kindly designed a PCB for me that uses the mikro BUS standard to interface to an ESP-01. ![]() ![]() The buttons are to make updating the firmware easier and can omitted if you don't intend to update the ESP-01 firmware. To update the firmware use the following circuit ![]() To use the module on the E100 you need to make the solder jumpers labelled click TX/RX this uses COM3 Grogster will have the PCB's on his website soon these should be around $1.00NZD Enjoy Regards Jman EDIT I forgot to attach the gerbers 2016-10-15_042342_Jman_2_WiFi_Click_Board.zip |
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matherp Guru ![]() Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10201 |
Nice idea ![]() My only comment would be to add holes for a 100uF tantalum and 0.1uF ceramic across the power rails. The ESP is notoriously sensitive to power supply and works best with a big "tank" capacitor as close as possible to the module. |
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Grogster![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9587 |
Version 1B? ![]() ![]() You could easily add those caps on the bottom side I guess - there's plenty of room in between the female headers on the Click sockets, for the caps to exist on the bottom of this module. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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lew247![]() Guru ![]() Joined: 23/12/2015 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1702 |
A suggestion regarding your E100 board If you added a DHT22 and a 4K7 resistor and connected it to the PWM pin, then the board could be used as a weather station for the E100 It could pull the outside data off the internet and display it and the DHT22 could display the internal room temperature and humidity I did actually design a similar board to go with my weather station once it's all working properly, but your board is much better as you included the programming input for the ESP8266 which I had forgotten about |
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Phil23 Guru ![]() Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
With all that room to spare, maybe Version 2 could support either ESP-01 or HC-11/12 modules, just by installing the appropriate header.? Obviously you couldn't install both. Phil. |
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Grogster![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9587 |
It begins.......... ![]() Yep, that's not a bad idea though. I can't really do anything to this board without jman's say-so, as it was his idea, and I have to respect that. I will let him post if he is OK with changes or not. 1B is only conceptual at this stage. I have no plans to do one - unless jman asks me to. ![]() Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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Phil23 Guru ![]() Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
Notice I didn't mention Bluetooth..... |
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Grogster![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9587 |
I'm sure you can already get Click Bluetooth modules. ![]() I do respect everyone's suggestions, and design-by-committee can come up with some good compromises in ideas, but the problem is that by it's very nature, nothing can be agreed upon because certain features are wanted by some, but not others, and nothing gets done. ![]() All good intentions I am sure, but........ ![]() Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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jman![]() Guru ![]() Joined: 12/06/2011 Location: New ZealandPosts: 711 |
Hi Please go ahead and make whatever changes you guys like. For me I just wanted quick, cheap and simple way to add WiFi Regards Jman |
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srnet Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08/08/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 164 |
I will soone have my LoRa Mikrobus modules back for DRF1278F and RFM98, which should be useful as LoRa goes very much further (10-30 times) than other UHF Modules. There are Click modules available for LoRa as there are for Bluetooth, but rolling your own is very much cheaper. $50SAT is Silent but probably still working. For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/ |
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JohnS Guru ![]() Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4034 |
The Mikrobus modules seem unbelievably expensive so is there not a better choice of extension connector? Maybe UEXT? John |
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srnet Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08/08/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 164 |
The MikroBus format is free to use and very low cost. If a board is 'unbelievably expensive' its not the format that makes them so. $50SAT is Silent but probably still working. For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/ |
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JohnS Guru ![]() Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4034 |
So those horribly expensive ones on the MikroE site are just so expensive because they feel like charging a lot for them? I didn't actually find any cheap ones at all! John |
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jman![]() Guru ![]() Joined: 12/06/2011 Location: New ZealandPosts: 711 |
Price was main factor to me rolling my own Jman |
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srnet Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08/08/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 164 |
If thats what MikroE want to charge for their modules then I would assume they know their market and thats what people are prepared to pay. The rest of us can use the layout to make our own very low cost versions. $50SAT is Silent but probably still working. For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/ |
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JohnS Guru ![]() Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4034 |
Of course you can - but why choose it at all? There are other ones that could be chosen, some with existing sensibly priced add-on boards. Why not choose one of those bus/connector standards? John |
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srnet Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08/08/2014 Location: United KingdomPosts: 164 |
There are other ones that could be chosen, some with existing sensibly priced add-on boards. Why not choose one of those bus/connector standards? John Which other formats had you in mind ? $50SAT is Silent but probably still working. For information on LoRa visit http://www.loratracker.uk/ |
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JohnS Guru ![]() Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4034 |
Which other formats had you in mind ? Any that have boards readily available and not expensive. Does no-one know any? I'm a programmer but can suggest UEXT or Arduino shields. There must be others - probably several or even many. Adopting something where in effect you're forced to make your own add-ons due to the excessive price of the few existing ones made me think: why? John |
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Grogster![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9587 |
Geoff may be able to answer this one, as it was at his instructions that these socket footprints be included. I expect it was simply due to the relatively large range of different modules you can get in that footprint from them. Price of some of the modules was probably not given too much thought, rather the range of choices available with this footprint. I am only guessing though, and might be totally wrong. If Geoff reads this, perhaps he will clarify that aspect of it. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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Geoffg![]() Guru ![]() Joined: 06/06/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 3282 |
I am not sure why this is being debated but, for the record, this was my thinking when adding click board sockets to the design... Click Boards have a huge range and while they are more expensive they do a single job far better than Arduino boards which do not have a solid standard and often rely on sketches which cannot be easily translated to BASIC. UEXT boards are similar to click boards but the range is severely limited and the design is inconsistent. Keep in mind that the Explore 100 was designed for people who want to get things done rather than count pennies. The bottom line is that everyone will have their own opinion on a subject like this based on their personal experience and priorities. Geoff Geoff Graham - http://geoffg.net |
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