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Forum Index : Windmills : F-P avaliability in the states
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Windykansas Newbie  Joined: 28/03/2010 Location: United StatesPosts: 3 |
good Morning All I have read, and reread all the posts and links pertaining to the F-P units being converted to wind power. Fantastic work and great creativity!!! Congratulations to you all! My first thought towards wind power were the converted automotive alternators, but after delving into them further they seemed more and more like a gimik than a real solution. Then I spent time researching the axial flux units, these seem to be quite viable and I would like to build one, but being normal and impatient I want something now. When I finally got to looking into these F-P conversions I found them quite interesting. The biggest issue I have is that while you all may have landfills full of these and are able to easily salvage them we are not. Mention Fisher Paykel around here and ally your going to get is a confused look. So Is there any way I can convince one of you fine gentlemen to weigh one of these units and associated packing materials? What I would really like is to be able to get at least two of these and see if I can get F-P movement started here in the middle of the US. I have the shop and most of the equipment but lack the major components. Thank you gentlemen Always windy, always flat, always good. |
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KarlJ Guru  Joined: 19/05/2008 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1178 |
I've shipped a couple out to the USA and unfortunately in my humble opinion its not worth it freight is $160 AUD and a single stator, hub bearing block and shaft weigh in at 8-9G with packing, that makes for an expensive generator even if we were prepared to give the to you for nicks. Also, as they are heavy, they are prone to damage in transit and of course the freight is the expensive part. I sent them via the post... good luck, try LG instead they may have some in circulation and basically similar in (stolen) design to F&P Luck favours the well prepared |
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Greenbelt Guru Joined: 11/01/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 566 |
WindyKansas; Randys workshop in Ohio is the only source of F&P Here in the US, that I know of. Just looked in on his web site He has some new model 60 48 pole motors ( brand new Factory seconds) that are electrically ok This guy has earned a good reputation for his shop made accessories and very reasonable prices. $105.oo for a new motor is a give away. postage to kansas should not be more than 20 bucks Time has proven that I am blind to the Obvious, some of the above may be True? |
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| JimBo911 Senior Member  Joined: 26/03/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 262 |
Hello Kansas Welcome aboard always nice to see a neighbor join in on the fun. It wasn't very long ago that I found my self in your position. Wanting to build a machine(mill)to grab some of that free wind and turn it into something that would work for me and my family. You can power or do just about anything with electricity and it feels just that much more satisfying when you design, build and or assemble it your self. Watching the amp meter on a windy day can be addicting. (Right Karl) It's a passion that most if not all the members on this forum share. I think that most of the members would agree that you've come to the right place. I believe that your decision to go with an F&P setup is the way to go. It may not be huge in power but the F&P is a tried and trued producer of electrons. I my self enjoy the machining of parts and components. I've just about finished redesigning and assembling a new hub, blade mounting system and will be posting photos asap. How ever I will be the first to admit that attempting to rewire an F&P stator for a star/delta configuration would probably turn out to be a disaster while lots of members can do this in there sleep specially the Aussie bunch. If your like me you may want to purchase a stator that has been rewired to perform well with the voltage you've chosen. I would jump on the advice that Greenbelt stated, at $105.00 its a bargain. Jim |
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| KarlJ Guru Joined: 19/05/2008 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1178 |
well i aint a big fan of the 60S but thats not to say it cant produce the goods. system voltage of 12 turns into many many nights re-connecting and 48V is also a tough one, too much voltage for a 2X7C and not enough in 7x2C.... still there are plenty of rewires that can be done with staggered windings that may produce good results and a good match. $105 bucks is certainly the right price (at least for you guys) personally I wouldn't pay more than $15 for a 100S  Luck favours the well prepared |
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| Pukwudji Newbie Joined: 10/07/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 20 |
Take a look at this thread. There are options available in the US. -Brian in Oregon -Brian V Hillsboro, OR (USA) KF7DUZ |
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| Gary Newbie Joined: 02/04/2010 Location: United StatesPosts: 14 |
windykanas, I too am from the states and was intrested in the F&P Motor idea and did some searching and found a place on the internet that sells them. ( www.repairclinic.com ).You have to type the part Number into there part search otherwise it dont show up. Part Number (1266809) @ 108.00 Good luck Gary Gary2010 |
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imsmooth Senior Member Joined: 07/02/2008 Location: United StatesPosts: 214 |
I have moved away from the F&P design, but I have this rewired, robust stator that I would sell cheap. http://www.mindchallenger.com/wind/wgpage5b.html It has 1.5x the number of windings and you can see from the graphs its performance. The only things is there are some cracks in the plastic, but it seems to be structurally strong. The iron cores are filed and it had very little cogging. With the neo rotor with my special slanted magnets it had virtually no cogging. |
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MacGyver Guru Joined: 12/05/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 1329 |
WindyKansas Welcome to the 4m. I'm certainly no wind-electric expert, but I've had my share of ups and downs with iron-cored wind generators and I can tell you that "cogging" ain't no pretty picture. If your heart is set on an F&P, don't let me sway you, but I have it on good authority that the axial-flux (as-fx) generator (3-phase alternator) is the way to go. It runs in both low and high wind, is quite robust and except for needing a lathe, is actually a fairly easy build. An ax-fx machine is nothing more than two plates of magnets spinning each side of a stationary set of coils bound up in resin or whatever you choose to hold them still. There is no iron in the system except perhaps the main shaft, which does not come into play as far as any magnetic attraction is concerned. There are oodles of posts on the ax-fx here on the 4m and a lot of true experts here as well, so if you get yourself into trouble (my middle name!) there are lots of folks to give you a leg-up! Best wishes on whatever you decide. . . . . . Mac Nothing difficult is ever easy! Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman, "Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!" Copeville, Texas |
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| imsmooth Senior Member Joined: 07/02/2008 Location: United StatesPosts: 214 |
If you want to read my web diary you can see the results of my building a F&P generator and then an axial flux. It should give you a good comparison. If you have any question feel free to ask. Here is the link |
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