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eirbyte

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Posted: 04:47pm 10 Apr 2010

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Hi folks we are coming down your way end of September just after our Irish workshop with Hugh Piggott

Our first port of call is Cairns where we are doing a talk (if we are not jet lagged)on building wind turbines at the 10th Australian Permaculture Convergence sometime between 24th � 28th September.

And then we are doing a week long workshop building a turbine to Hugh Piggotts design at Bood's place, starting on the 10th of October in the Atherton tablelands.

After that 20th Oct sees us in Castlemaine to do another 5 day workshop at Allanah and Peter's place, they are organising a lot of this trip for us and encouraged us to come down your way.

Then Adelaide at the Aldinga Arts Eco Village.

And Perth and maybe some other ones as well as we are still getting this trip organised.

Check out our website for updates, I will post them here as well as soon as we know.

http://www.buildyourownwindturbine.com
You can see what our workshops are like from the website.

(They are very serious workshops and no fun atall

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All the best Jimmy

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Posted: 05:19pm 10 Apr 2010

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Hi Jimmy,

What are you intending on doing when in Adelaide, is that a workshop event to.
Or just a show and tell.
I would be interested in attending if time permitting.

Then Oct. is a long way off and i have trouble getting organized for tomorrow.

Pete.

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shawn

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Posted: 07:20am 11 Apr 2010

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Any chance of comming to new zealand?

KarlJ

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Posted: 08:17am 11 Apr 2010

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I'm in for the Perth event

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eirbyte

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Posted: 06:57pm 11 Apr 2010

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Hi Pete I think the only talking shop is at the permaculture convergence in Cairns. All the rest are full 5 or 6 day workshops where we will build a working turbine and put it up and test it (providing the crew are up to it and don't drink to much beer).

Hi shawn Yes would love to fancy organizing it

Hi KarlJ Nice

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Posted: 02:19am 12 Apr 2010

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[quote] (providing the crew are up to it and don't drink to much beer).
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Its not the beer that effects you here its the water, drinking beer is safe.

What sort of mills do you build and a few specs on expected output would be of interest.

Pete.

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eirbyte

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Posted: 07:29am 12 Apr 2010

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Downwind said [quote] (providing the crew are up to it and don't drink to much beer).
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Its not the beer that effects you here its the water, drinking beer is safe.

What sort of mills do you build and a few specs on expected output would be of interest.

Pete.

We work to Hugh Piggott's design click on his name to see his website.

This link is to a page on our website with estimated monthly energy production at different mean windspeeds in meters per second.
http://www.buildyourownwindturbine.com/index.php/aboutworksh op

Almost forgot our photo gallery

There is lots of info on Hug's and our websites have a browses and anything you can't find answers to just ask.

If you can't get our web site let me know.
All the best
JimmyEdited by eirbyte 2010-04-13

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Posted: 08:20am 12 Apr 2010

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Hi Jimmy,

I thought it was a demenstration workshop but was told today its has a rather high fee attached to attend the workshop.

I am not so keen any more as i think most folk here would much rather put the dollars into their own build with the help of members on this forum for free.

Can you confirm the price to attend the workshops.

I am all about helping others with achieving a viable mill but against paying someone a free holiday downunder. (with beer or without)

Pete.

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Posted: 09:39am 12 Apr 2010

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400 Euros = about $600 AUD, probably not that bad

I notice the site says dont expect to take home a completed turbine? Who gets the one we build, do you at least offer it for sale to the crew?

I dont think its too unreasonable (the price) I would ask that we build a decent mill though 3m+ with alternator good for at least 1.5KW continuous.

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Posted: 09:43am 12 Apr 2010

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What would be the best scenario for us on the forum here

OZTULES run a workshop!

we'll all congregate on the island, cut blades with a chainsaw!!!!!!!!!!

Dad would be up for that too.

Karl

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Posted: 10:01am 12 Apr 2010

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If we could all agree on a single design than a online workshop could work.
This could involve cells of groups working together in local areas
The only problem is getting enough people together at any one time to make it a workable project.
Then there is the alter egos that would kill any project.

For one i can not see $600.00 worth the price to be shown what is already well posted across several forums unless there was a working mill of a good standard at the end for each that was involved. I doubt this to be the case.

Oz and Gordon have already built mills that would give one of these a run for its money.

All said the workshop is a great idea for those who dont have the skill or the gear to produce a good mill on their own and need to be shown how to tackle such a project.

Pete.

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Posted: 10:35am 12 Apr 2010

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OZTULES run a workshop!

we'll all congregate on the island, cut blades with a chainsaw!!!!!!!!!!

Dad would be up for that too.

I think I would make the trip for this wind been blowing hard as here and my wind mill still waiting for blades

eirbyte

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Posted: 11:06am 12 Apr 2010

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Downwind said
Can you confirm the price to attend the workshops.
Pete.

Not yet, as we are only the teachers and it's up to the people that organize the individual workshops what they charge and whether they include food/accommodation or not.

Downwind said
but against paying someone a free holiday downunder. (with beer or without)

Thanks but it's only a free holiday if you think our time is worthless - we both do 7-10 hours teaching each day.

KarlJ said
I notice the site says dont expect to take home a completed turbine? Who gets the one we build, do you at least offer it for sale to the crew?

The people organizing the workshop keep the turbine for their own use but if they don't want it then it's offered to the crew for the cost of the materials by drawing lots or whatever way they decide is fair.

This is a hands on workshop for people that maybe don't have the knowledge or confidence to make something like this, if you think that you know enough then don't come.
For example someone might have good woodworking skills but don't know how to work with steel and we will encourage them and teach them to the best of our ability.

And again we work to Hugh Piggott's design in all our workshops and if you think that is not the kind of turbine for you then don't get involved.

It sounds as though one good thing has already happened - you guys are now talking about coming together and helping each other in practical terms as well as the help that you already offer to each other on the forum. It's great fun to work with people on building a turbine.

Here are some more links to other people that teach Hugh Piggott type courses you might get some ideas from them.

Workshops that Hugh does

V3 Power in the UK

Tripalium in France

]Dan Bartmann

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KarlJ

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Posted: 06:54am 13 Apr 2010

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fair enough, i think the piggot design is well good enough and think that its a great idea in that if I attend a workshop in Perth and there are half a dozen others they will see that I have the best site to put it up and thus let me buy it

I would be sure you wouldnt be carting it back to Ireland from here.
if there was no chance of keeping it at the end for materials prices then i'd be out

we'll see closer to the time, hopefully by then i've got a job

Karl

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Posted: 08:50am 13 Apr 2010

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Hi Jimmy,
I did talk with the Dan's a couple of years ago about coming out here and holding a workshop on my farm. I am based in the Adelaide Hills on a 85 acre farm with an off grid machineshop and I would be happy to host the Adelaide event for you. I can get neo magnets direct out of china and I'll soon be getting a shipment of 50x15mm N52 round Neo's for a few of my mate and myself. Also I can get magnet wire of any size from work alot cheaper than market prices.
My place is only an hour away from the city and being off the grid I can show my RE setup's too.
I can setup my woodworking machines for making the blades and install a tower already for testing the new made turbines. If participating members want to build their own turbine then they can pay for the parts and a commission for you guys to do the workshop. If people just want to attend and learn the cost would be lower of course.
Where we can't offer accommodation to the participants I'll be happy to host you guys, just mind we do have 2 young girls but you will find the BBQ's I do will water in the mouth type stuff.
Jimmy let me know if your interested as I am more than keen and will have a heap of cleaning up to do and setting up.

This is something I've wanted to do for years and if you guys will take my offer personally I'll make it is a success.

Regards Bryan (RuddyCrazy in the RE world)

eirbyte

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Posted: 09:38am 13 Apr 2010

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Bryan1 said
This is something I've wanted to do for years and if you guys will take my offer personally I'll make it is a success.

Thanks Bryan
I was just switching off when I saw your message. It sounds great to me and I would love to do it we just have to contact our friends and see what they have organised so far I will let you know as soon as I do.

All the best Jimmy

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niall1

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Posted: 09:48pm 13 Apr 2010

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just some thoughts on turbine courses

i think there a great way for like minded people to work hard together , have fun (important) and chew the fat so to speak

for me the most interesting thing about courses is experiencing and thinking how to work around any hidden problems (processes) that reveal themselves and they can (and will)... show up ...

...not so much the finished result

note to eirbyte......mmm...just where am i going to borrow a good pillar drill if your at the oz permaculture event ?

niall mumbles to himself off into the distance ...

Edited by niall1 2010-04-16

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