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vasi Guru  Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
China urges closer military ties with Australia Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Vasi That's so they know what is going on for when they decide to take over as has been their stated aim for the last fifty years. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5116 |
I'm not to worried about this. Australia and Asia often have military exercises together. We are right next to eachother so its better to be friends I think, and China is our biggest trading partner. Its all about getting along with each other in this region, trade and military exercises, keep the peace. It may come back to bit us in the bum one day, but I myself dont think it will in my lifetime. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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old mate's mate Newbie  Joined: 11/08/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 15 |
Interesting, it's a funny old world, Reminds me that old mate recently mentioned that some mainstream scrap-metal merchant (Simms ?) was scrambling to fulfil a contract with China for squiggatons of scrap OR risk a fine. Now, isn't this faintly reminiscent of The Great Leap Forward during the 50's when the Chinese peasantry was punished for not fulfilling their iron production quota. The policy lead to serious de-forestation (running the backyard smelters) and starvation (The peasants melted down their agricultural implements and woks). Some parallels and irony there (can't quite put my finger on it) Funny old world OMM |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Is here something I don't understand, even if I use "Google Translate": [quote]... and a limited number of joint sea drills.[/quote] Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5116 |
A "drill" is like a practice run. To go through the actions without actually firing weapons in anger. Like a fire drill, where you test to see if everyone can get out of a building as if it was burning, but it isnt. A test. The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi All I spent several years working with the Chinese in Singapore and four years back here involved in their investment projects, and I well know their intentions and it is to own Australia in a 100 years, not like our stupid government they are planning for the future, like an ants nest mentality. They know what they want, and are working on securing it now, None of us will be here to see it but if our government doesn't wake up it will happen, sooner or later as sure as the sun rises. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Thank you, now is clear! Vasi Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
I know communism mentality. They will stop only when "The Revolution" will be victorious. And that mean capitalism eradication. They are far more dangerous than Russians. Not because they are numerous, but because of their wisdom and their perseverance. Making an agreement with them means you recognize you are weak (and afraid). Not only because your army is technologically inferior, but because you think your allies are too far from you. This is what is obvious... specially for an enemy... With all these changes around the world (Russia controlling Europe with gas, North Korea and Iran threat, China's world expansion and worse, many capitalism countries "obedience"), it seems that the communism world is coming back more powerful than ever. The cold war is in round two. Edit: ---------- This kind of world reconfiguration will not be in the human rights favor. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Vasi It is a shame that the politicians cannot see what you see, as it is as plain as the nose on the face that the takeover is happening. China is more dangerous than the communist block used to be, because they have a combination of communist and capitalism that manipulates the world through the financial dependence on them, as a gross consumer market, and makes nations their slaves by financial dependence. They are like a financial cancer spreading around the world, they will own Australia in a few more years and Australians will be their slaves to do their bidding, they have already financially cornered America by the financial cancer of job deprivation because big business runs to China with the lure of cheap labor and does a deal with with the devil, without being smart enough to realize that if their consumers have no paying job they cant buy the products even if they are cheap. Off the soap box Bob Foolin Around |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5116 |
I'm not sure I should let this post continue. I would like to avoid one country bagging another, remembering this is a global community. At primary school I was told the soviets would start a nuclear war and we would be lucky to live into adulthood. In my teens is was the Japanese planning to buy our country out from under us and put us all out of work. In my early 20's it was Indonesia who were going to invade. Now its China's turn. Who knows, maybe one day, but not this week. Australia has abundant resources, but very little inhabitable land, we have no water, and simply cant support a big population. If I was China, I wouldn't be interested in invading a country that cant support even a fraction of my population. Australia is already supplying my needs through commerce, we buy their resources and they buy our goods, we have a healthy trade agreement that has kept us both prosperous during a global economic downturn, why would I bother invading? The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Glenn I am not bagging China as such, if anything I am criticizing the Australian government for their shortsightedness, we are part of Asia and it is inevitable that we in time, we will be absorbed by Asia by fair means or foul. The advances in China make me jealous because we in Australia have the intellectual ability to do the same, using our resources and abilities but it all goes offshore to be made into things that are sold back to us, no problem with that because as a pensioner I cant afford the cost of the same product made in Australia, and I like fixing their dud wind turbines available at bargain basement prices because most people chuck them out as there isn't any warranty and no ability to fix them. The Australian situation is as you suggested an arid unforgiving land with a inability to support their numbers so why bother when the they can use their money to buy at bargain prices all our resources and make us think it is to our advantage to do so, our local kids are now in a deep and serious debate on population growth when it has been a known fact for over fifty years that I know, that there is a definite limit to the number of people that can live off the water naturally occurring in Australia, didn't they even go to college before becoming a politician, or is this a smoke screen, I think the latter. They the Chinese have the brains, and the ability, and the money to rule a vassal empire, and good luck to them for their foresight and tenacity to purpose to do so, it as I said before it is a shame that our kids in Canberra wheren't half as good. I agree with you on the healthy trade agreement being to our mutual benefit, and we do have a lot of benefit here, but it is the lack of insight by our government, the now mentality that contrasts with the China mentality of future planning that disturbed me. Is that a controversial subject or not, that is for you to decide as it is your forum to lead as you see fit. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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