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| VK4AYQ Guru  Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Maybe this could drive our generators?? and alleviate our Stress at the same time Very Interesting ON OUR FAMILY FARM IN VICTORIA WE USED TO GROW HEMP, NOT A LARGE AMOUNT BU FROM MEMORY AROUND 100 ACRES, IT WAS USED TO MAKE HIGH QUALITY CLOTH FOR SHEETS AND HOTEL LINEN. THE GOVERNMENT STEPPED IN AND MADE IT ILLEGAL SO GRANDFATHER STOPPED GROWING IT AS HIS CONTRACT WAS CANCELLED. MY GRAND MOTHER WAS A BUSH DOCTOR OF SORTS AS THE NEAREST DOCTOR WAS A DAYS HORSE RIDE OR THREE HOURS OVER TERRIBLE ROADS AND WITH A LARGE FARMING COMMUNITY SHE WAS FIRST CHOICE FOR MOST REMEDIES. SHE USED HEMP IN HER HEALING IN MANY CONCOCTIONS PASSED DOWN FROM HER MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER AND THEY WORKED. AT THAT TIME THEY WEREN'T SILLY ENOUGH TO SMOKE THE STUFF FOR THE INDUCED STUPOR AN OVERDOSE CAN PRODUCE. THIS BEGS THE QUESTION "WHY DONT THE GOVERNMENT MAKE OLEANDER PLANTS ILLEGAL AS WELL. THE ANSWER IS IN THIS ARTICLE. ENJOY:- READING THAT IS BOB The Marijuana Conspiracy - by Doug Yurchey - May 28, 2011) Original article by Dan Hughes dated March 20, 2009 in Health magazine - The Reason hemp is illegal. (Nothing to do with its effects on the mind and body) They say marijuana is dangerous. Pot is not harmful to the human body or mind. Marijuana does not pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people. The truth is, if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about the plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies. Where did the word ‘marijuana’ come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant – as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years: ✔ All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s. (Jack Frazier. Hemp Paper Reconsidered. 1974.) ✔ It was legal to pay taxes with hemp in America from 1631 until the early 1800s. (LA Times. Aug. 12, 1981.) ✔ Refusing to grow hemp in America during the 17th and 18th centuries was against the law! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769 (G. M. Herdon. Hemp in Colonial Virginia). ✔ George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers grew hemp. (Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.) ✔ Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America, and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow’s export to England. (Jack Herer. Emperor Wears No Clothes.) ✔ For thousands of years, 90% of all ships’ sails and rope were made from hemp. The word ‘canvas’ is Dutch for cannabis. (Webster’s New World Dictionary.) ✔ 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc.,were made from hemp until the 1820s, with the introduction of the cotton gin. ✔ The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross’s flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp. (U.S. Government Archives.) ✔ The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons.Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th century. (State Archives.) ✔ Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. ✔ Rembrandt’s, Van Gogh’s, Gainsborough’s, as well as most early canvas paintings, were principally painted on hemp linen. ✔ In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs. (U.S. Department of Agriculture Archives.) ✔ Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935. (Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before the U.S.Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.) ✔ Henry Ford’s first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the car itself was constructed from hemp! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, ‘grown from the soil,’ had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel. (Popular Mechanics, 1941.) ✔ In 1938, hemp was called ‘Billion Dollar Crop.’ It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars. (Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938.) ✔ Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled ‘The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.’ It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world. The following information comes directly from the United States Department of Agriculture’s 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing ‘patriotic American farmers’ to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the war effort: “…[When] Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was indispensable… Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the Japanese… American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as of our industries… The Navy’s rapidly dwindling reserves.When that is gone, American hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; hemp for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and shore. Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas victorious with her hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!” Certified proof from the Library of Congress, found by the research of Jack Herer, refutes claims of other government agencies that the 1942 USDA film ‘Hemp for Victory’ did not exist. Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces four times as much pulp with at least four to seven times less pollution. From Popular Mechanics, February 1938: “It has a short growing season… It can be grown in any state… The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year’s crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, chokes out weeds. …Hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.” In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made illegal,would have brought America out of the Great Depression. THE CONSPIRACY William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst’s grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp. In 1937, DuPont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. DuPont’s Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of DuPont’s business. Andrew Mellon became Hoover’s Secretary of the Treasury and DuPont’s primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law,Harry J.Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: ‘marijuana’ and pushed it into the consciousness of America. MEDIA MANIPULATION A media blitz of ‘yellow journalism’ raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst’s newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marijuana. The menace of marijuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality. Films like Reefer Madness (1936), Marijuana: Assassin of Youth (1935) and Marijuana: The Devil’s Weed (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marijuana laws could be passed. Examine the following quotes from The Burning Question, aka Reefer Madness: a violent narcotic; acts of shocking violence; incurable insanity; soul-destroying effects; under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an axe; more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marijuana. Reefer Madness did not end with the usual ‘the end.’ The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: ‘Tell your children.’ In the 1930s, people were very naive, even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children, and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby boomers. On April 14, 1937, the prohibitive Marijuana Tax Law, or the bill that outlawed hemp, was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the U.S. Senate, Ways and Means Committee, at the time,Robert Doughton, was a DuPont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress. Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marijuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marijuana was hemp. Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst’s front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood cannabis to be a medicine found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years. In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since. Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Harry Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marijuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat ofMcCarthyism, Anslinger then said the exact opposite: marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight. Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet’s energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels.We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves.We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices. THE WONDER PLANT Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime. All plastic products should be made from hemp seed oil. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature. They do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as DuPont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the oil industry and the political machine.Hemp products are safe and natural. Medicines should be made from hemp. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported cannabis cures.‘Medical Marijuana’ is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Pot is only healthy for the human body. World hunger could end. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. Also: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds. Clothes should be made from hemp. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time.You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it illegal to wear hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans? The world is crazy. But that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word ’marijuana.’Realize the history that created it.Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullsh*t.Hemp must be utilized in the future.We need a clean energy source to save our planet. Industrialize hemp! The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies.We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: ‘It’s more dangerous than we thought.’ Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today. The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-pot commercials say: If you buy a joint… you are promoting terrorism! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way they see fit. There is only one enemy: the friendly people you pay your taxes to, the war-makers and nature destroyers.With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. Half a million deaths each year are caused by tobacco. Half a million deaths each year are caused by alcohol. No one has ever, ever died from smoking pot!! In the entire history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the killers: tobacco and alcohol. Hemp should be declassified and placed in drug stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are bad, but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries, which is a healthy condition. We have been so conditioned to think that smoking is harmful. That is not the case for passive pot. Ingesting THC, hemp’s active agent, has a positive effect: relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being. [one personal note. During the pregnancy of my wife, she was having some difficulty gaining weight.We were in the hospital. A nurse called us to one side and said: “Off the record, if you smoke pot… you’d get something called the munchies and you’ll gain weight.” I swear that is a true story.] The stereotype for a pothead is similar to a drunk, bubble-brain.Yet, the truth is one’s creative abilities can be enhanced under its influence. The perception of time slightly slows and one can become more sensitive.You can more appreciate all arts, be closer to nature and generally feel more under the influence of cannabis. It is, in fact, the exact opposite state of mind and body as the drunken state. You can be more aware with pot. The pot plant is an alien plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the only plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes. Except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, earthly plant is, you have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuality. Growers know to kill the males before they fertilize the females. Yes, folks, the most potent pot comes from ‘horny females.’ The reason this amazing, very sophisticated, ET plant from the future is illegal has nothing to do with how it physically affects us. Pot is illegal because billionaires want to remain billionaires! “And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land.” – Ezekiel 34:29. p.s. I think the word ‘drugs’ should not be used as an umbrella-word that covers all chemical agents. Drugs have come to be known as something bad. Are you aware there are legal drugstores?! Yep, in every city. Unbelievable. Each so-called drug should be considered individually. Cannabis is a medicine and not a drug. We should dare to speak the truth no matter what the law is. http://www.tpuc.org/content/marijuana-conspiracy 
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norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Have a few mates who turned to pot back in the 60`s 70`s (alcohol & tobacco was enough for me) note their minds are gone now and they sit around feeling sorry for themselves. Cannot help thinking they got that way from long term use, and feel concerned when I hear young users quote that pot has no ill effects. A trial of a hemp crop was carried out in this area a number of years ago, the hemp was to be used to make dashboards etc in cars(replacing plastic), never heard of any follow up so guess the venture was dropped. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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shawn Senior Member  Joined: 30/03/2010 Location: New ZealandPosts: 210 |
I guess most of us have had a go of it when we were young but I for one would not want my two kids 6 and 9 years old stoned so its a no go for me  |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5116 |
Yeah I remember trying it a couple of times, peer group pressure thing. I remember thinking it was expensive way to feel drunk, as I'm a happy drunk, so it was pointless and I never smoked it again. I do have a friend who has smoked it every day or so for decades, her brain is pretty much mush now, and her personality has changed a lot. I dont want to know her anymore, the friend I once had is gone. Its a fools drug. But anyone who takes drugs is a fool in my mind anyway. Lifes too short to waste it zoned out. Its a shame hemp has been give such a bad name by the drug-o's, its got a lot of other applications, including medicine. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi I wholeheartedly agree with you on the bad effects of misuse of hemp, but that applies to a lot of things available to society these days and it is up to a person to educate as to the correct use of any substance to survive. paint and petrol and industrial solvents kids sniff is a dangerous pastime as well and as I mentioned the Oleander plant grown in gardens every where. All are dangerous as is crossing a road with your eyes closed in peak hour traffic. I to have lost friends and relatives to the drugs, but my dad said that idiots are self eliminating and this is a true saying, but the bleeding heart brigade think they can protect them, not so. Educate to remove the idiocy in the young at home is the only answer, the bad influence of government, education drug pushers and peer pressure will win if you do not do so. One of the worst blights on society is smoking and its after effects, i to have lost friends and relatives to the effects of smoking. The only reason it isn't illegal is the huge profits of commercial interests and the billions of tax dollars the government reap every year not to mention the political handouts to politicians parties at election time. Tobacco has a right and valid use however as it a a good natural biodegradable insect spray, but surprise surprise it is illegal because of the short term nicotine residue on the vegetables. Once again the influence of chemical spray suppliers, so its OK to smoke it and have go into the blood stream, but no good to have a small residue on food way below toxic levels where it does no harm to the human body, chemical sprays are cocktails of long life molecules known to be carcinogenic but are OK because it makes money. you can see why I hate the political system. It is a shame that they couldn't legislate for common sense within their ranks, but that wouldn't work any way. The abuse of Alcohol is nearly as bad, and the same commercial and tax situation applies. Shawn it is up to you to train your children as they are immersed in an advertising frenzy to get money out of them when they get older, supported by the government, even if the government says otherwise. This pleasure for now and bugger the long term consequences is in front of us all, and as Dad said "idiots will be self eliminating". All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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| Air Bender Senior Member Joined: 25/01/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 206 |
I sat around drinking cheap wine and smoking pot for a couple of years, but I came to the relisation that in that couple of years I had acheived nothing and I managed to drag myself out. I wouldnt be worried if growing hemp became legel and i have two young children I beleive that if they are inclined to take drugs it wont make any difference weather hemp is legal or not. I think some of the pills these kids are taking today are the big problem. I thing if kids have a strong enough will to acheive something and know that it is within there capacity they should pull through OK. I hope that i dont have to eat these words in years to come. All the best Dean. |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Dean You are one of the smart ones that recognize the futility of drugs and will no doubt pass this onto your kids and others that will listen, it is the Idiots that don't listen that become the casualties of the drug lords pushers and governments. I agree the pills are an evolution in the mind control of the immature and Idiots, even when I was at school over fifty years ago the pills where pushed in the schools, those where like lemonade compared to whats around now. I feel truly sorry for the kids now as without firm parental guidance they can fall prey to the dealers and it is down hill from there. I hope you do not have to eat your words as I know how that feels as i lost one to the affects of drugs and lifestyle of the stupid and perverted. All you can do is your best. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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Perry Senior Member Joined: 19/11/2009 Location: Posts: 190 |
Personally I think clean, organic pot is much less dangerous for you than the test tube concocted trash that most societies are pumping into their kids now. Seems like it's almost defacto to turn to antidepressants now a days. Not entirely convinced that years of use turns minds into mush either. If a person smoked a couple of joints a day they would have nowhere near the problems of a person that drank a fifth of booze a day. Guess, I'm the only one on here that says roll em up in moderation, be safe, hide em from your kids (just as you once hid them from your parents), watch your mill and have fun. Perry |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Perry It is true that all things in moderation isn't participially harmful, but in my experience any of the addictive drugs given to those that have addictive tendencies can result in disaster for them and family. It is true that the imported concentrated product is the worst, I had a friend who carted containers off the docks in Sydney that used a little of the home grown product, however his job meant that he had access to some of the imported product, I told him to be careful, but his reply of "sheel be right mate" was all I got. Next time in Sydney I went to see him and his wife told me he was in the mental home from the effects of the hooch, I went to see him but the lights where on but nobody was home, he was in that condition for 20 years till his death a few years ago, what a waste of a life of a good person. I could go on with a few others but I won't bore you with it. To me its like taking a overdose of any medication, it can be fatal, but in the right conditions it can be life enhancing. Remember that your kids will be hiding them from you, as kids aren't stupid and will one day recognize the smell and say thats good enough for dad, then its good enough for me. Off the soap box All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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