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kingw

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Posted: 05:51am 07 Mar 2010
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This is basic as I am a budding learner in this field. I harvested a motor from a treadmill and am doing the math to see the practicality for the turbine (doubt it will be good in this application).

Specs can be seen here.

So if I am doing this right, it will take ~51 RPM to get about 1 volt @ 18 amps for 18 watts. To charge a 12v battery I'd need about 721RPM to get 14 volts @ 18 amps = 252 watts correct?

That seems like an awful amount of RPMs for this little motor. Other than using it to build my first project as a learning experience would there be any good applications? Maybe sell it on e-bay and bank the $$ for a better motor?

Many thanks!

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kingw

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Posted: 06:02am 07 Mar 2010
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This is all in theory of course. Application is far away for now. I just ran the work on my second motor I pulled out of a kirkland washing machine (made by whirlpool).

Picture for specs seen here.

I don't think this motor could be used without conversion, but simply going off the spec sheets:

~10 RPM = 1v @ 9 amps = 9 watts
139 RPM = 14v @ 9 amps = 126 watts (enough to charge 12v battery?)
417 RPM = 42v @ 9 amps = 378 watts (getting respectable?)


-kingw
 
Downwind

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Posted: 02:56pm 07 Mar 2010
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The second motor (Ex-washer) looks like an induction motor and is as good as useless for a windmill.

From my understanding the treadmill motor looks a little high in rpm to make a good windmill, but others might see it different.

Did you keep all the electronic control gear from the treadmill, as it might make it more practical to sell.

Pete.
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Tinker

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Posted: 02:56pm 07 Mar 2010
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You might want to put your washing machine motor in the 'too hard' basket for now or use it for what it was designed: a motor.

You treadmill motor has wind generator potential but you can't really use the *motor* specs and expect they work in reverse when its used as a generator.

You need to *drive* this motor (best done on a lathe) and see what voltage comes out at a given RPM.
If you want to use it to charge a 12V battery, connect one (after you have found out which wire is + and -) and see at which RPM current starts to flow into the battery.
Good luck
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kingw

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Posted: 05:55pm 07 Mar 2010
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I did save the electronics for the treadmill motor. Goodie box

I think next step before working on wind is going to make or buy a lathe. It seems they are useful for just about everything. And then I can test motors I find.

Any favorite DYI links out there? I'm jumping on google now.

Thanks for the tips.
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kingw

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Posted: 03:15pm 09 Mar 2010
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Lathe located. It needs a bit of work to get going, but I will post data once I get it running. I doubt it will be anything that efficient for wind, but you never know!Edited by kingw 2010-03-11
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