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Herry

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Posted: 07:26pm 20 Mar 2016
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Wondering if posters have a recommendation. Tried TinyCAD but no MM size IC symbol and generally a bit clunky.

(Using Pebble very happily for breadboard and Vero layouts)Edited by Herry 2016-03-22
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Diptrace.
I use it for schematics, pcb with panelizing, custom parts, 3D models etc.
When you are not using to many parts it is free.
Already use it for about 2 years now and it is very reliable and so far i can make anything i want.
Also making new parts is straight forward.
Export for making gerbers after setting up is just a few clicks.

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I've tried a few I use Diptrace free version.
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I've used this one a couple of times lately, web based, no downloaded needed.

http://www.digikey.com.au/schemeit/

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Here we go with the PCB software again.....

I prefer and use Sprint Layout 6 but that is just me.

This software will allow you to do single-sided, double-sided and four-layer boards.
I have not yet needed more then 4-layer, so the fact it lacks 6-layer is not really an issue - for me. Six-layer board are generally very expensive anyway.

There are plenty of choices, and some members prefer the free softwares.
I like SL6 cos it is relatively simple, easy to learn, and small so does not gobble up heaps of PC resources like some of the larger professional packages can.

...again, this is just my 2c...
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for simple circuit diagrams, you might like to try DIY layout creator:
https://github.com/bancika/diy-layout-creator
https://github.com/bancika/diy-layout-creator/archive/master.zip

it is a very basic structured drawing program, allowing you to lay out simple schematics and create veroboard designs. it is NOT an integrated schematic capture and PCB CAD system. for my purposes, it serves well as a simple means to create circuit diagrams for publication. one strength is the ability to overlay objects, so for instance, one can place a circle over a transistor, or build up a complex shape:




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....Windoze Paint for the simple stuff. A wet afternoon when the lawns can't be mown can see a great collection of hand drawn components in a library. Also use it for PC layup. Easy enough to scan a sample of vero board for 0.15 matrix, and it will print to scale once designed for the old stick and punch method of one off boards. But that's me, I'm cheap


 
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Thanks for replies. I've been looking quite closely at Diptrace and it is much too complicated for me. I am happy with Pebble for breadboarding and at the moment I do not want to progress to a PCB (although I believe they are remarkably cheap to have made). What I would like for now is a *simple* way to draw circuit diagrams, where I can move elements around and retitle them at will.

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Herry

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Tried Robert's simple one, but after downloading and unzipping could not find an exe fileEdited by Herry 2016-03-24
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Opps - you wanted circuit diagram schematic software, not PCB software - sorry.

Have a look at Splan 6.
Also not free software, but I like this one too for my schematics.
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Now Splan that looks the part Grogster! Trying the free trial version 7. You've done it again. Couldn't find a 28 pin DIL though...
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Herry

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...and now I think I have that answer. It is created in Component editor, using say the 24 pin and editing it and saving it as a 28 pin? Right?
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robert.rozee
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oops, that link was to the mac specific version. try this one, the multi-platform version that includes a windows executable:

https://github.com/bancika/diy-layout-creator/releases/download/REL_3_28_0_MP/diylc-3.28.0.zip

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HankR
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This is a great thread. I also would like a simple schematic program, but so far none mentioned have fit the bill.

My wish list is:

1. Absolute freeware. No crippleware or time limited trial software.

2. Simple program. If it's more than 4 Megs unzipped it has probably too many features. No project files, please. No extensive symbols libraries, either.

3. It should run on WIN 98. If it doesn't, it's probably more complex than I need.
(I will run it on XP, but WIN 98 is a sort of litmus test.)

I used to have a nice one that was a breeze to use, but it's back several generations of computers and OSs. It might have run under WIN 3.1; WIN95 for sure. If I could find it, I'd list it here on TBS.

HankEdited by HankR 2016-03-24
 
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WIN98?!

Folks, I think we have found one of our W98 forum members!

Seriously though, W98 is essentially dead(with no disrespect to those still using it), so I seriously doubt you will find any modern software that will support it let alone stay inside 4MB.

I'd like to be proven wrong, though....

I used to use Paintbrush for Windows 3.11 to do my early schematics, and I still have a full library of symbols for it.

Here is a schematic I drew using that method years ago:





This was an ancient old amp I built for camping long before the days of iPods and other efficient battery powered stuff. It has a datestamp of June the 3rd, 1996.
Note it was to be plugged into a cassette walkman.....

Anyway, that schematic was drawn using Paintbrush for Windows 3.11
I preferred that over Paint for Windows 95 or 98, as PB3.11 was smaller, and even easier to work with then Paint was.


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Here is another image:





This is how I drew my DIL chips at the time...
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Herry

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z80? Brings back memories of programming the TRS-80!
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Herry

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Well I downloaded the full paid version of sPlan 7 and it looks very good. I am having trouble creating a DIL 28 (for the Micromite) though. I copy a DIL24, edit it at length (more pins etc) and (I thought) save it. But on opening up the program although the new 'DIL28' is now in the component library, all my edits are lost (ie it is still an unedited copy of the DIL24)> I tried to query this on an sPlan forum, but all those appear to be in German!
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I have Splan6 and use it often, so I will have a gander at this later tonight(my time), and post back here.

EDIT: Could not help it - had to have a look at this now.
Works for me.....





Bear in mind, this is the fully-registered paid for version I am using.
If you are using the TRIAL version of the full program(IE: you have not purchased a copy from them), then the trial version won't let you save any changes - that's a limitation of the trial version, from what I can remember.Edited by Grogster 2016-03-25
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Herry

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Yes, now OK. Only problem is getting straight wires in the right place. My mouse hand either goes too far or not enough, leaving a badly jagged line. Normally I would nudge the position of one end of the line using keyboard CTRL-Arrow, but that doesn't work on one end of a line. It moves the whole line.Edited by Herry 2016-03-25
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