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| twofingers Guru  Joined: 02/06/2014 Location: GermanyPosts: 1526 |
SYSTEM. EDIT Google: windows get system rights Edited 2022-02-27 01:04 by twofingers causality ≠ correlation ≠ coincidence |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3309 |
Hmmm. When I get to "Advanced Security Settings for bin" (C:\bin), "Permissions", I see that "Administrators" have "Full Control" (as does SYSTEM), and I am the only Administrator. So still looking for a solution. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10066 |
Look at the security properties of the directory. You will probably find that neither SYSTEM nor administrator have write access rights. Somebody will have so use that account or it may be that administrator can give itself the required rights |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3309 |
As above, both Administrators and SYSTEM have "Full Control" (as does now my (Administrator) user ID after I added it). I still get "Access is denied" when I try to copy it with a (new) DOS Administrator command prompt. attrib \dl\micromite\_mmb4w\mmbasic.exe yields A C:\dl\micromite\_mmb4w\MMBasic.exe I do not have a mmb4w session active. (Added: no problem copying it on another laptop.) ~ Edited 2022-02-27 06:27 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7501 |
Always handy to have a USB-stick linux for such occasions. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3309 |
How would that help? PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| mclout999 Guru Joined: 05/07/2020 Location: United StatesPosts: 483 |
You can live boot from it and have a way to work on your system. I have been using a few utility tool boot sticks designed to fix a lot of issues like lost logging passwords This is just one of many videos or articles about boot utility sticks. v=3BZW0x7J190&ab_channel=ThioJoehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BZW0x7J190&ab_channel=ThioJoe EDIT: Same guy shows how to use Ventoy multiboot tool. Nice. I did not know about this one. You can have many boot tools on one USB stick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuonyS3xdwg&ab_channel=ThioJoe Edited 2022-02-27 14:31 by mclout999 |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7501 |
I've used a USB stick of Puppy Linux as a rescue device a few times. You can even use it on a borrowed PC and leave no trace as the USB stick can also be your storage. :) The only requirement is that the machine is capable of booting from USB. It doesn't matter if the HDD is scrambled as you don't need to use it. You can still read, write, modify just about anything on the HDD even if windows can't even see it. You can also change file permissions. While running Puppy you can even go online, providing the hardware is working, to look for help. It's a general purpose little OS. And it has a nice desktop. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3309 |
I've also booted linux from a USB stick, but even if I am able under it to copy the file to where I want it, that won't help me when the next alpha is released (if I encounter the same problem). It remains a mystery to me how a laptop which I own and am administrator of, used by no one else, can suddenly say (after a Win10 update, which might or might not have caused the problem), that I don't have the necessary rights to copy a file anywhere on my hard drive. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7501 |
Oh, you should know that Microsoft can do no wrong. ;) I'd just boot into linux, change the permissions on the directory and go back to windows. Then wait to see what happens. It could just be a fluke of random electrons. There are a lot of them around. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3309 |
But the permissions, as reported, are correct, so what would I change them to? This seems to be a problem only for me, so I won't pursue it further here. Sorry for the diversion from the topic--I had hoped there would be a quick fix. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7501 |
"as reported" is the clue. What the permissions are and what windows tells you that they are may not be the same thing. Linux doesn't use the same permissions system as windows and will generally read and change the *actual* permissions bits. It's worth having a look at what linux says anyway if you suspect permissions have been changed. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| Michal Senior Member  Joined: 02/02/2022 Location: PolandPosts: 125 |
Hi lizby, Some files may be protected with a higher priority than Administrator. Read on about TrustedInstaller. Michal |
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| Andrew_G Guru Joined: 18/10/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 868 |
Hello all, I hope this is the correct place to ask these question as this thread seems to have gone cold but: 1) Is there a problem with JSON on MMB4W? I have MMB4W 5.7.03 (the latest?) and I'm using Peters code above "Posted: 02:04am 26 Feb 2022" but with my APIKEY and my place ID. At the end I've added: Print "Sunset= ", json$(m%(),"sunset") expecting to get the EPOCH number of the sunset time. It runs (very quickly), I get everything else printed but I only get blank for the sunset time. Similarly, for most of the other parameters (I've tried almost all, including from the command line etc) I only get blank (and no error messages). I've also re-keyed Peter's statements and they work. Has Peter managed to pick the working ones or am I doing something very wrong? 2) Is there a newer version of MMB4W? 3) Is there a newer release of the manual. 4) the TCP command makes it so easy to access the web from a PC - is there any possibility of a similar one on the PicoMite (albeit with some LAN connector?) (the ESP8266 is a poor second in my view). Many thanks, Andrew |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6219 |
Print "Sunset= ", json$(m%(),"sys.sunset") Difficult to see without formatting the string but you need the "sys" prefix. Jim VK7JH MMedit |
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| Andrew_G Guru Joined: 18/10/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 868 |
Thanks Jim, Yes that did it! I was about to ask why but I now see that it is within the sys brackets { } and "name" "Kew East" are outside it so don't need the sys. OpenWeather/JSON 101. Any thoughts on my other three questions? Cheers, Andrew Here is the output after I added the "sys."  |
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thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4251 |
Hi Andrew, You've resurrected the "alpha" thread, you need to look at the "beta" one: https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?FID=16&TID=14614 The latest stable release is 5.07.03b10. There was a b11 but it was unstable. I'm currently doing some work for Peter that may become the new b11/b12 but things have gone a bit haywire in Cassa Williams over the last couple of weeks. Has there ever been a manual for MMB4W ? My observation is that Geoff generally doesn't produce a manual until an MMBasic port reaches release candidate (RC) state. <Raises shields and retires to a safe distance>  .I shouldn't speak for Peter, but I imagine anything that he could do in this area with the PicoMite firmware could first be done (albeit with worse performance) by someone else in MMBasic (or a CSUB). If/when that happens I imagine Peter would take a view of whether to port it into the firmware (space permitting). Best wishes, Tom Edited 2022-10-20 19:39 by thwill MMBasic for Linux, Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10066 |
There are examples on TBS of using a ESP8266 with MMBasic to access weather. This works fine without any need for firmware changes including on the PicoMite |
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| Andrew_G Guru Joined: 18/10/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 868 |
Tom, Oops and sorry. Thanks for your answers. Peter, thanks and understood. Andrew |
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