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KeepIS Guru  Joined: 13/10/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1882 |
Sounds like something in the Win install is broken, assuming all system drivers are also correct and up to date. BTW Piriform Defragger says 179 MB/s on main drive and 89 MB/s on secondary SSD drive. Wonder how they are calculating that as its not preforming a normal Disk benchmark, and random access reads would be virtually the same as linear reads on an SSD, they don't appear to be testing write speed either? On ATO benchmark, my main drive @ 16K Read/Write is over 1 GB / Sec, @ 64K and above, Read/Write performance is over 2.4 GB/ Sec. EDIT Hi Brian, just noticed you last post appeared after I posted the above, that would explain why the benchmark is so different. Mike. Edited 2019-11-10 18:26 by KeepIS NANO Inverter: Full download - Only Hex Ver 8.1Ks |
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| Phil23 Guru Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
Hi Grog, Long shot here, but have you tried disabling the indexing service in Win? Have seen situations where it gets screwed up & so adds a timeout before things move on once it decides not responding as expected. Just have a vague recollection of addressing such an issues a few years back. Disabling the service fixed the performance issue & identified the source. The final fix was to nuke the damaged index database & let it build it's self again. Cheers. Phil. |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9610 |
Thanks for the link, Brian, I will read. Nice to know it is not just me.  Phil23 - good idea, I will try that if the MS link does not result in anything. My SSD benchmark test is as follows:  Based on this, I doubt that SSD speed is an issue - it is going like a rocket! Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| KeepIS Guru Joined: 13/10/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1882 |
Normal results for a good SSD, the only time the SSD becomes a bottle neck is when transferring / writing lots of small files of a few KB long or less, try copying a really big browser cache with hundreds of very small files to see the effect. That's the main difference in performance results between various SSD technology and price. That link Brian posted is really good as there are a few simple things to try. A really Simple one was to add another user account and log into that. I've done this in the past on some PC's and it's amazing how many thing go back to normal (for a while) when using the second account. Also booting into safe mode is always one of the first options to try the system with all 3rd part devices unloaded. Best of luck, look forward to seeing what is causing your problem. Mike. NANO Inverter: Full download - Only Hex Ver 8.1Ks |
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| BrianP Senior Member  Joined: 30/03/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 292 |
For all you SSD users, here's another tip to keep them running at full speed. It's called Trim - explanation here: https: //www.windowscentral.com/how-ensure-trim-enabled-windows-10-speed-ssd-performance This is relevant to Mike's post above, especially in relation to the small files writing. Trim tells the SSD which blocks are available for use & erases them NOW, instead of the drive having to do that on the fly when you are writing a new file. So then there is no lost time with the drive having to erase before writing, very noticeable in the writing lots of small files scenario. Apparently with SSDs erasing takes a lot longer than writing, & you can't just overwrite a sector like you do on a spinning drive. The sector must be erased before you can write to it. Getting back to Grog's issue - as mentioned in the link I posted previously Windows can spend a lot of time looking for environments it thinks it needs but may no longer exist. This is very apparent in a network environment when you try to access a not available network resource - it takes ages to give up, & you can't do anything but wait. This can be relevant to the so-called "Quick Access" menu in Explorer - if there's a reference in there to something that no longer exists then you have a "Very Slow Access" menu. Been there, done that... Grogs - let's know how you are fairing... (hope you haven't binned the box(  .B |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9610 |
I have uninstalled AVG, and switched on Windows AV/Defender + firewall. I note things are a LITTLE better. Now, files take about 5 seconds to open vs 10 or so. It would appear that AVG was at least in some way adding to the delay. I have watched the video about doing a clean-boot, so I might try that next. TRIM is enabled on my machine. Thanks for the replies chums. I appreciate your suggestions and input. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| busa Regular Member  Joined: 12/02/2015 Location: AustraliaPosts: 81 |
Hi Grogster, I have the same Intel NUC running W10 as you and was also having problems with slow file loads and bootups etc after the last updates were applied. However after another round of updates this morning the problem seems to be resolved and my NUC is back to normal. So I suggest you try the latest updates and cross your fingers. Busa |
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