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Mixtel90

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Posted: 07:43am 07 Jun 2021
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In the UK it's quite common to use a temp of around 13C as a night setback level. It's quite possible to drop to less than 10C indoors overnight in winter unless there's some  heating in an older house. Most people set the daytime temp to a fair bit more than 13C during the day though. :)

(Fond memories of my pre-centrally-heated UK childhood, using a coin heated in my hand to melt a hole in the ice on the *inside* of my bedroom window in a morning... And that was considered normal after a cold night.)
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Going back to my original question for a minute..

I've fixed the problem with both split aircon units I have.
They needed a damn good cleaning.

I took the covers off both until I was at bare metal evaporator coils and gave them a really good cleaning with high pressure air, then used a paintbrush and then air again on the fan
The amount of crud that came out of them shocked me.

I now know after doing a lot of research they are meant to be cleaned at least once a year, ideally using the foam or similar cleaner then sprayed with water till spotless.

Here in the UK very few people have aircon in their houses so it's not common knowldge about cleaning, and they didn't tell me that they needed an annual clean when I bought them or when they were installed.

Here in the UK I like mine set to around 18C in Summer and not far off that in the winter.
I have aircon in the bedroom 365 days a year on 18C, could't sleep properly without it now.

It was the best investment I made.

What I have to try and find now is one of those plastic bags you put over the Split unit when cleaning to collect the water and crud, very hard to get hold of here, I've only found one place selling them and it's around UK40
 
lew247

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And this forum with it's you can't use any character over ascii 127 is really starting to P**S me off and I suspect quite a few others as well.
I couldnt even put the UK pound symbol
 
Mixtel90

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I'm afraid it uses ASCII characters, lew, and there's no UKP symbol in standard ASCII.
I know it's a pain...  :(
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lew247

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it's not just the pound syumbol I've had to take screenshots and post the image of what I want to  post quite a few times because I can't figure out which character in the post the forum doesn't like
I've seen others do this also
 
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  lew247 said  . . . I can't figure out which character in the post the forum doesn't like

Other likely culprits: Angled double or single quotes, em-dash (best to replace with "--"), en-dash (replace with "-").
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  lew247 said  it's not just the pound syumbol I've had to take screenshots and post the image of what I want to  post quite a few times because I can't figure out which character in the post the forum doesn't like

Just run the text through a small program (maybe in "DOS" MMBasic) which strips out all the allowed (i.e. ASCII) chars and whatever is left is the bad stuff.

(Particularly trivial in Linux - wouldn't even need a new program - so I hope not hard in Windows.)

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Posted: 10:04pm 07 Jun 2021
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This is an extract from MMEdit, used to sanitize code.

 lt = LEN(txt$)
 ltsh = lt -2
 FOR Qpos=1 TO lt
   ch$=MID$(txt$,Qpos,1)
   'print asc(ch$)
   chval = ASC(ch$)
   IF chval = 145 OR chval = 146 THEN ch$=CHR$(39) ' single quote
   IF chval = 147 OR chval = 148 THEN ch$=CHR$(34) ' double quote
   IF chval = 150 OR chval = 151 THEN ch$=CHR$(45) ' EN dash to hyphen
   IF chval = 181 THEN ch$ = "u" ' micro symbol
   IF chval = 163 THEN ch$ = "UKP" ' UK pound symbol
   IF chval = 226 AND Qpos < ltsh THEN
     'print asc(ch$), asc(mid$(txt$,Qpos+1,1)),asc(mid$(txt$,Qpos+2,1))
     IF MID$(txt$,Qpos+1,1)=CHR$(128) THEN
       Qpos=Qpos+2
       ch$=MID$(txt$,Qpos,1)
       IF ch$=CHR$(152) OR ch$=CHR$(153) THEN ch$=CHR$(39)' single quote
       IF ch$=CHR$(157) OR ch$=CHR$(156) THEN ch$=CHR$(34)' double quote
     END IF
   END IF
   IF chval = 128 THEN ch$ = "euro" ' EURO symbol (normally!)
   cleantxt$=cleantxt$+ch$
 NEXT Qpos

The currency ones are a new addition and I will add more as that pop up to bite me.
The euro symbol can be troublesome as it tends to wander about a bit.
I'll put together something that you can put on the desktop and drag text onto do the same.

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lew247

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  TassyJim said  This is an extract from MMEdit, used to sanitize code.

 lt = LEN(txt$)
 ltsh = lt -2
 FOR Qpos=1 TO lt
   ch$=MID$(txt$,Qpos,1)
   'print asc(ch$)
   chval = ASC(ch$)
   IF chval = 145 OR chval = 146 THEN ch$=CHR$(39) ' single quote
   IF chval = 147 OR chval = 148 THEN ch$=CHR$(34) ' double quote
   IF chval = 150 OR chval = 151 THEN ch$=CHR$(45) ' EN dash to hyphen
   IF chval = 181 THEN ch$ = "u" ' micro symbol
   IF chval = 163 THEN ch$ = "UKP" ' UK pound symbol
   IF chval = 226 AND Qpos < ltsh THEN
     'print asc(ch$), asc(mid$(txt$,Qpos+1,1)),asc(mid$(txt$,Qpos+2,1))
     IF MID$(txt$,Qpos+1,1)=CHR$(128) THEN
       Qpos=Qpos+2
       ch$=MID$(txt$,Qpos,1)
       IF ch$=CHR$(152) OR ch$=CHR$(153) THEN ch$=CHR$(39)' single quote
       IF ch$=CHR$(157) OR ch$=CHR$(156) THEN ch$=CHR$(34)' double quote
     END IF
   END IF
   IF chval = 128 THEN ch$ = "euro" ' EURO symbol (normally!)
   cleantxt$=cleantxt$+ch$
 NEXT Qpos

The currency ones are a new addition and I will add more as that pop up to bite me.
The euro symbol can be troublesome as it tends to wander about a bit.
I'll put together something that you can put on the desktop and drag text onto do the same.

Jim


Why though?  
This is the only forum that does this!
I'm a member of many forums and none of the others have this issue.
Edited 2021-06-08 16:21 by lew247
 
TassyJim

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  lew247 said  
Why though?  
This is the only forum that does this!
I'm a member of many forums and none of the others have this issue.

The code I posted is used to cleanup code that gets pasted from PDFs and Word documents.
I just thought it could solve your problem...
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Mixtel90

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From Gizmo in January:
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The code looks for any character over 127 ascii.

Finding a balance between a forum where users can post code, and a forum that wont let someone post code that breaks the forum, isn't easy.

Glenn

I suppose that still applies. :)

The UKP has never fitted into the ASCII code below 127. It's always "patched in" as a character above that. All positions from 0-127 are allocated.

If you start playing with unicode then more things become possible, but it's not straightforward to do.
Edited 2021-06-08 16:58 by Mixtel90
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JohnS
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  lew247 said  Why though?  
This is the only forum that does this!

Because its provider (who pays for it all and develops it for free too) had (I think) grief with a previous version of the forum and re-did it this way.

If it bothers you enough I guess you leave - or maybe offer him money to change it.

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Mixtel90

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  JohnS said  
  lew247 said  Why though?  
This is the only forum that does this!

Because its provider (who pays for it all and develops it for free too) had (I think) grief with a previous version of the forum and re-did it this way.

If it bothers you enough I guess you leave - or maybe offer him money to change it.

John

What's more, messing about with the code for the forum takes time that could be better spent writing & supporting the software that puts bread on his table. Personally, I'm happy to accept the limitations and be very grateful that it's here. Thanks, Gizmo. :)
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JohnS
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I'm happy, too :)

Yep, thanks Glenn!

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Got up this morning and due to the sub zero overnight temp, the place had fallen to 14 despite the heater going.

Bugger that for a Joke!
17 is the bare minimum I ever want the place and that's no good either.  Anything under 20 is cold and uncomfortable for a home IMHO.

I'm tight but having a warm, comfortable home in winter is one thing I will pay for... although I'll sure try to minimise the cost but not by having the place like an ice box.
 
Mixtel90

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[Lancashire accent]
Eh, lad, tha' don't know tha's born! When I were a lad there was eight on us i' one room, sittin' round a candle. If it got cowd we lit it!
[/Lancashire accent]

Apologies if that doesn't translate into Australian very well. :)
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  Mixtel90 said  [Lancashire accent]
Eh, lad, tha' don't know tha's born! When I were a lad there was eight on us i' one room, sittin' round a candle. If it got cowd we lit it!
[/Lancashire accent]


Gizmo should write a script that deletes the forum if it at least once conversation every 3 months doesn't reference The Four Yorkshiremen Sketch ... though your Yorkshiremen seem to have decamped across the border

Best wishes,

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Mixtel90

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LOL! I nicked it. T'other side o' the Pennines is nowt but grime and dark satanic mills anyway. ;)

The dialect as I wrote it isn't that far off the old West Lancs one, actually. I remember my grandparents sounding pretty much like that. :)
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