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Turbo46

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Posted: 06:30am 11 Feb 2023

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It seems that the 'Library' as used in the MM2 would be handy.

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Posted: 07:52am 11 Feb 2023

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What are you willing to sacrifice to get it, Bill? Unfortunately this version of the RP2040 isn't built on the TARDIS core. ;)

(I sometimes think Peter is working on that though... lol )

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Posted: 08:04am 11 Feb 2023

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Quote What are you willing to sacrifice to get it, Bill?

A Flash slot.

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Posted: 08:05am 11 Feb 2023

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The LIBRARY command is not in any of my ports and won't be

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Posted: 08:18am 11 Feb 2023

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matherp said The LIBRARY command is not in any of my ports and won't be

Somebody check the weather forecast

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Turbo46

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Posted: 08:39am 11 Feb 2023

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Frost.

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Posted: 09:31am 11 Feb 2023

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Mark said Tom,
Looking at both sptrans and gonzo I see lines starting with #Include. Where is that handled? If I could get that working with PicoMite Basic, I think that would do all I need.
Mark

Hi Mark,

#INCLUDE is only available on CMM2, MMB4W and MMB4L. That is why I (and Bill) suggested that "you will need to first transpile [sptools] using itself " on one of those platforms. I will try to find time to do this myself later, but it's a while since I "fired up the Quattro" so things may not go smoothly.

Further notes:

It will probably be slow. sptools does a full tokenise and pretty-print so as to support it's other functionality, see (past its sell by date) README on GitHub. If you just wanted to inline #INCLUDEs you could write something much simpler and faster.

I think the PicoMite could have #INCLUDE but there are a number of issues that would need to be sorted out, not least of which would be the editor, which on the PM and micromite platforms is a program/flash editor rather than a file editor. A significant amount of work that I don't expect Peter to volunteer for.

Likewise I feel that file CHAIN is implementable; the tokeniser shouldn't need to use the entire variable RAM as workspace. But again, why should Peter do this ? The PicoMite firmware is up on GitHub, so people will either have to get stuck in or accept that (subject to suggestions) Peter is steering the ship.

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Tom
Edited 2023-02-11 19:52 by thwill

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Turbo46

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Sorry Tom, I missed your post re sptools. Yes, MMEdit probably is an easier option to include the files than without a CMM2. It worked OK when I tried it.

It's a pity about the Library, I'm sorry I mentioned it.

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Posted: 01:32pm 11 Feb 2023

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thwill said #INCLUDE is only available on CMM2, MMB4W and MMB4L.

That's a pretty good set, though :)

With the CMM2 having so much more RAM etc than the RP2040, some stuff just can't fit :(

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Posted: 04:46pm 11 Feb 2023

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Turbo46 said Sorry Tom, I missed your post re sptools. Yes, MMEdit probably is an easier option to include the files than without a CMM2. It worked OK when I tried it.

My sptrans on the PicoMite plan hit an early brick wall. I'd forgotten there was no MM.CMDLINE$ on PicoMite. I'm now building the firmware as I think I have a simple fix for this which Peter will find acceptable - wish me luck!

Turbo46 said It's a pity about the Library, I'm sorry I mentioned it.

Why are you sorry? No on-topic suggestion should be verboten. Even if you can't implement such suggestions yourself expressing our opinions is good for our mental health and stimulating of discussion. I am always interested in your opinion, I just may not always agree with it

... but mostly it seems I do.

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Posted: 05:07pm 11 Feb 2023

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I was wondering about command line parameters with the PicoMite. I guess they aren’t supported. For my proposed transpire, here’s how I’m thinking about working around that. The program will look for a configuration file on the file system. If not there, it will prompt the user and create it for future runs. There may actually be two configuration files one with system wide options, one with project specific ones.

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Posted: 09:03pm 11 Feb 2023

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Is this of any use?

SUB MM.STARTUP
' Your configuration commands here
END SUB

Manual page 13.
'
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Turbo46

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Posted: 09:19pm 11 Feb 2023

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thwill said wish me luck!

Good luck Tom

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Posted: 10:05am 12 Feb 2023

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Is it possible someone can explain to me what the begeebers chain actually is??

I remember from the BBC micro the chain command was how to load from floppy.
I just assumed it was load then run?

I'd give my left arm to be ambidextrous

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Posted: 10:58am 12 Feb 2023

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Chain is the ability for one program to load and run another thereby replacing it but with variables and their values preserved
The Picomite supports this concept with the FLASH CHAIN command.
However, that doesn't meet the OP's requirement which was that subroutines were also available to both programs. This concept isn't supported in any version of MMbasic

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Posted: 12:42pm 12 Feb 2023

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Thanks for that.

I feel a little more educated.

I wish I could help more on this site, but there seems to be an abundance of professionals.

Cheers

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thwill

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Posted: 12:49pm 12 Feb 2023

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IanRogers said I wish I could help more on this site, but there seems to be an abundance of professionals.

You help out by participating, and I can assure you that the professionals can be as wrong as anybody else.

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Tom

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Mixtel90

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Posted: 01:36pm 12 Feb 2023

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I'm regularly wrong - and not just on this forum. Just ask my wife. lol

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thwill

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Posted: 01:43pm 12 Feb 2023

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Mixtel90 said I'm regularly wrong - and not just on this forum. Just ask my wife. lol

Are you professionally married or a hobbyist?

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Mixtel90

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Posted: 02:11pm 12 Feb 2023

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She assures me that it's a full-time profession. As is being wrong...

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