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Mixtel90

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Posted: 02:37pm 28 Feb 2025

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Saitek P220
The throttle buttons are not used.
button 5 = Select
button 6 = Start

{
.vid=0x6A3,.pid=0x107,
.b_R1={3,7},
.b_START={3,5},
.b_HOME={255,0},
.b_SELECT={3,4},
.b_L1={3,6},
.b_DOWN={1,192},
.b_RIGHT={0,192},
.b_UP={1,64},
.b_LEFT={0,64},
.b_R2={3,7},
.b_X={3,1},
.b_A={3,3},
.b_Y={3,0},
.b_B={3,2},
.b_L2={255,0},
.b_TOUCH={255,0}
},

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Posted: 02:47pm 28 Feb 2025

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What version do you want to test with?

Mixtel90

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Posted: 02:48pm 28 Feb 2025

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It doesn't look to me as if this one works.

gioteck VX-2 Model VX2PS3-12

{
.vid=0x25F0,.pid=0x83C3,
.b_R1={255,0},
.b_START={255,0},
.b_HOME={255,0},
.b_SELECT={255,0},
.b_L1={255,0},
.b_DOWN={255,0},
.b_RIGHT={255,0},
.b_UP={255,0},
.b_LEFT={255,0},
.b_R2={255,0},
.b_X={255,0},
.b_A={255,0},
.b_Y={255,0},
.b_B={255,0},
.b_L2={255,0},
.b_TOUCH={255,0}
},

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Posted: 02:51pm 28 Feb 2025

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I don't even know if that VX-2 is a working unit. I don't think we have a PS3 to test it on now.

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Posted: 03:02pm 28 Feb 2025

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Some of the controllers need a command from the host to turn them on after they request connection. The Pico doesn't support that.

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Posted: 03:25pm 28 Feb 2025

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Thanks anyway. :)

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Posted: 08:05am 01 Mar 2025

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{
.vid=0x11FF,.pid=0x3331,
.b_R1={6,3},
.b_START={6,1},
.b_HOME={6,6},
.b_SELECT={6,0},
.b_L1={6,2},
.b_DOWN={1,192},
.b_RIGHT={0,192},
.b_UP={1,64},
.b_LEFT={0,64},
.b_R2={6,5},
.b_X={5,4},
.b_A={5,6},
.b_Y={5,5},
.b_B={5,7},
.b_L2={6,4},
.b_TOUCH={6,7}
},

gamepad configure &H11FF,&H3331,6,3,6,1,6,6,6,0,6,2,1,192,0,192,1,64,0,64,6,5,5,4,5,6,5,5,5,7,6,4,6,7

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Posted: 08:36am 01 Mar 2025

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javavi

If you post the diagnostics when also moving the analogue sticks we can probably get those working as well

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Posted: 10:42am 01 Mar 2025

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matherp said If you post the diagnostics when also moving the analogue sticks we can probably get those working as well

This gamepad is essentially an analog PC joystick. It has two modes: analog and discrete (in which only extreme values for the directions of the analog sticks are set)
The D-Pad processes the extreme positions of the left analog stick.

+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
| 7F | 7F | 7F | 7F | 7F | 0F | 00 | A0 |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
X1 Y1 Z1 X2 Y2 But1 But2 Stat

X1,Y1 - Left Analog Stick
X2,Y2 - Right Analog Stick

Left - X1=00
Rigt - X1=FF
Up - Y1=00
Dn - Y1=FF

But1 - B A Y X . 1 1 1 1 (bits)

But2 - Rt Lt R2 L2 R1 L1 6 5 (bits)

Stat - A0 - Discret
20 - Analog

Edited 2025-03-01 20:50 by javavi

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Posted: 11:10am 01 Mar 2025

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I also have two joysticks for the XBox 360 system.

They are not recognized by the test program at all.
I wish they were also supported by the PicoMite system.

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matherp said If you post the diagnostics when also moving the analogue sticks we can probably get those working as well

In terms of the report form, this SVEN X-Pad is similar to the top USB SNES gamepad that the PicoMite system currently accepts. They differ only in the VID/PID code.
I think that there are a great many such gamepads, similar in report only from different manufacturers!
They can also contain a different amount of information in the report from the number of axes and buttons.
And it would be better to recognize them by the USB HID device descriptor.

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Quote And it would be better to recognize them by the USB HID device descriptor.

I agree but tell me how

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matherp said

Quote And it would be better to recognize them by the USB HID device descriptor.

I agree but tell me how

I know a project on Pico, where the author worked on this issue both to support various USB gamepads and several types of USB mice and created a library that contains a parser for the USB HID device descriptor.
https://github.com/fruit-bat/pico-hid-host

BTW:
His ZX-Spectrum emulator works great on PicoMiteHDMIUSB hardware with various USB joysticks, mice and keyboards connected to the Hub at the same time.
Edited 2025-03-01 22:11 by javavi

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Posted: 07:52pm 01 Mar 2025

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Hi Peter,

For my "The PiHut" branded gamepad:

{
.vid=0x79,.pid=0x11,
.b_R1={6,1},
.b_START={6,5},
.b_HOME={255,0},
.b_SELECT={6,4},
.b_L1={6,0},
.b_DOWN={4,192},
.b_RIGHT={3,192},
.b_UP={3,192},
.b_UP={4,64},
.b_LEFT={3,64},
.b_R2={255,0},
.b_X={5,4},
.b_A={5,5},
.b_Y={5,7},
.b_B={5,6},
.b_L2={255,0},
.b_TOUCH={255,0}
},

gamepad configure &H79,&H11,6,1,6,5,255,0,6,4,6,0,4,192,3,192,3,192,4,64,3,64,255,0,5,4,5,5,5,7,5,6,255,0,255,0

Unfortunately your basic utility just goes "crazy" with my Buffalo Classic USB Gamepad, I think this is because its idle state is not 100% stable; its D-Pad X and Y-axis "randomly" return 0x7F, 0x80 or 0x81 as it sees fit. I'll finish writing my own utility if I can find the strength.

Best wishes,

Tom
Edited 2025-03-02 05:54 by thwill

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Posted: 08:01pm 01 Mar 2025

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Change

If bits(inp%,outp%) Then
Print #1,Str$(i%-1)+","+Str$(Choice(outp%>inp%,192,64));
Print #2,Str$(i%-1)+","+Str$(Choice(outp%>inp%,192,64));
EndIf

If bits(inp%,outp%) Then
Print #1,Str$(i%-1)+","+Str$(Choice(outp%>baseline%,192,64));
Print #2,Str$(i%-1)+","+Str$(Choice(outp%>baseline%,192,64));
EndIf

in function changed - might work

Mixtel90

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Posted: 09:00am 02 Mar 2025

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"THEGAMEPAD" seems to be as common as unicorn poo here, and the indicated price (almost £30) is remarkably expensive for such a basic controller. :( The price is irrelevant when it's out of stock everywhere though.

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thwill

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Posted: 04:59pm 02 Mar 2025

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Peter,

Do you have to call GAMEPAD MONITOR in order for DEVICE(GAMEPAD channel, RAW) to work ? - I don't think you had to in the first beta that supported the RAW output.

At the moment I can't read the Buffalo controller because as soon as I use GAMEPAD MONITOR the PicoMiteVGAUSB console output is overwhelmed by the gamepad diagnostics caused by the "unstable" (0x7F, 0x80, 0x81) output from the D-pad.

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Posted: 05:03pm 02 Mar 2025

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You have to call gamepad monitor to get data from a non-supported device. Otherwise we get these spurious gamepads off some keyboards. You probably have enough data from the Buffalo in your original post to do it by hand. From what I remember you just need the codes from select and start
Edited 2025-03-03 03:05 by matherp

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Probably, but now I've invested significantly in my own tool I'd like to finish the job. Is there any chance of GAMEPAD MONITOR SILENT (or ... NOCONSOLE) which does the monitoring without the console output?

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Posted: 05:19pm 02 Mar 2025

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What version?

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