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SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 03:24am 21 Apr 2025

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Easy-Peasy! And I think that you will really like Norton, err, Midnight Commander (unless you were one of those XTree guys... :) )

The entire reason for the terminal is because it provides a good way to see where the problem is. Running a program from Nemo (the file manager) either works or it doesn't. No diagnostics with Nemo. And mc just makes the process easier.

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Posted: 04:05am 21 Apr 2025

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This is all I can get...

I seem to be in the wrong place. This is completely new to me and I'm a bit out of my depth.

"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all"

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Posted: 04:07am 21 Apr 2025

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I don't know how to navigate to the desktop in the terminal.

"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all"

SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 04:08am 21 Apr 2025

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Revlac said Thanks SimpleSafeName
That MC is nice,

Didn't see this before,
libQt5WebKitWidgets.so.5

...Imagine a picture here...

Will check back later have other work to do now

Excellent! Glad that it was helpful. :)

I have found that mc is the best way to see what is going on.

Now for libQt5WebKitWidgets.so.5, you should be able to manually install it with this command:

sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5

I did this for some other program that required QT so I had no problem running MMEdit (well, assuming that was the only thing that I did differently. There's no telling until libqt5webkit5 is installed).

Even though I already have it installed, I did a fake install to see if apt-get was aware of it:

Notice that it located libqt5webkit5? I seem to recall that I had to point apt-get to the correct sources, but it should walk you through that part.

SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 04:17am 21 Apr 2025

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palcal said I don't know how to navigate to the desktop in the terminal.

Did you run:

sudo apt-get install mc

Once that is done type in mc and hit enter.

Check this video out for a tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I973iH79G-A

For waaay to much info go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO4ytUT5Q00&list=PLjr8xOWhzGTxgHORe56n_tnym1JlFqfFD

Oh, and I forgot to mention it, but when you first go to edit a file, mc provides you with four choices of available editors. I recommend mcedit.

SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 04:22am 21 Apr 2025

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palcal said This is all I can get...

I seem to be in the wrong place. This is completely new to me and I'm a bit out of my depth.

No problem, we were all there at some point. Try these keys:

"Enter" to go into a folder (directory).
"TAB" to jump from the left hand panel to the right hand one.
"Control-O" to toggle from mc to terminal.
and preface any local program that you wish to run with ./ e.g. './MMEdit'

And Linux is CaSE SEnsitIVe. So mmedit would be treated as a different program than MMEdit.

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Posted: 04:54am 21 Apr 2025

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So looking at your screenshot, you are in your Home folder. Good. So if you haven't already created a directory for MMEdit, hit:

'F7'
Type in 'MMEdit' and hit Enter. This will create your MMEdit directory.
The cursor for mc will park itself on the newly created MMEdit directory. So please hit Enter. That will take you into your new directory.

Now hit 'TAB' to travel to the opposite panel. Navigate to your Downloads directory and locate MMEdit. (or wherever it is located).

Highlight the 'mmedit5_20.4.tar.gz' file and hit 'Enter'. This will cause mc to open the .tar.gz file. This works for .zip files too (and many other types of compressed files as well).

Important!!

Because you are operating on a compressed file and not in a directory, mc does not select (highlight) the directories when you select them as instructed in the next part.

Hit '+', a popup box will appear. If this is the first time that you do this, it will be empty. Hit '*' to tell the selection box that you want all of the files as well as all of the directories selected.

And again, if you are operating on a compressed file (mc will let you know), you may (will?) have to select your directories manually.

What mc looks like when it has opened a compressed file:

And to select/deselect a single file, hit the Space Bar.

Now hit 'F5' This will copy all of the selected file from one panel to the opposite one.

Hit 'TAB' to go to the opposite panel.
Hit 'Control-O' to get you to the terminal.
Type in './MMEdit' and hit enter.

Please left us know what it complains about. Thanks!

Hint: Because Case matters, you will find all of the files with a capital letter sorted higher than ones with a lower case letter.

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Posted: 05:03am 21 Apr 2025

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Is this what you wanted....

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Posted: 05:16am 21 Apr 2025

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Ok thanks,

sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5

Got MMEdit working for me.

Yet it looks so similar to the one in the Readme file, although that one has "default" in front.

Happy now.

Cheers Aaron
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Posted: 05:17am 21 Apr 2025

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Awesome! And congrats on getting mc running! You can do about 90% of your maintenance from it.

From an earlier post:

"Now for libQt5WebKitWidgets.so.5, you should be able to manually install it with this command:

sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5

I did this for some other program that required QT so I had no problem running MMEdit (well, assuming that was the only thing that I did differently. There's no telling until libqt5webkit5 is installed).

Even though I already have it installed, I did a fake install to see if apt-get was aware of it:"

So from the terminal view (hit 'Control-O' if you are still in the directory/file view), copy and paste this line: sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5
and hit enter.

It might (as in probably) will want you to add the package source to your system. It should be a simple matter of doing what it recommends and then entering

sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5

for a second time.

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Posted: 05:19am 21 Apr 2025

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Revlac said Ok thanks,

sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5

Got MMEdit working for me.

Yet it looks so similar to the one in the Readme file, although that one has "default" in front.

Happy now.

SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 05:33am 21 Apr 2025

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And now that we've gotten this far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GO3mccvTCs

Hey! who's that guy at 25 seconds into the video? :)

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Posted: 05:57am 21 Apr 2025

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What was that all about ???

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SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 06:09am 21 Apr 2025

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That was a famous Flash animation from around 2003 or so poking fun at Linux. The guy you see at 25 seconds is the same guy as my avatar. Sort of. You can find him here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxg4yTzDN8 at 1:04.

And the creator kindly gave me permission to use it after my having used it for about a decade. Proving that crime can in certain cases, pay.

But tell us some good news, did you get MMEdit running?

I'm going to have to bug out here soon, I have to pack for a trip to Connecticut where we will be setting up the controls for a drill rig that is headed out to sea (it for a UK research group. Should be fun).

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Posted: 06:11am 21 Apr 2025

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Ok it's working. I installed the same file as Revlac.
sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5

Now to get the desktop icons, that'll probably take just as long

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SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 06:12am 21 Apr 2025

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I didn't bother with the icons. Too lazy. :)

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Posted: 06:18am 21 Apr 2025

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Also got to connect to the USB port, I tried that in Putty, no go.
I ran 'ls usb' and found the port but couldn't connect, probably the wrong syntax.
Instead of 'ttyS0' I changed that to 'usbS5' , the port that was in the listed ports.

Well it's time for a few beers and I didn't drink before I installed linux.
Well not much.
Edited 2025-04-21 16:26 by palcal

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SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 06:58am 21 Apr 2025

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It may be because you need to add yourself to the 'dialout' group. To do this:

Type in: 'echo $USER' in the terminal and hit 'Enter'. That's you, and presumably the user you want to be able to call out. If you are using a piece of software that has its own user, then you would use that. But it will probably be your username.

Then type in this: sudo adduser "Your_Username_Here" dialout and hit Enter.

That should do it.

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Posted: 06:59am 21 Apr 2025

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Oh, and have a beer on me. You earned it! (I'll fax it to you later).

Edit: I realized that I hadn't blocked out the command. Sorry. Here it is a bit clearer:

'sudo adduser "Your_Username_Here" dialout'

You might have missed the 'dialout' part of the command (or someone following these instructions).

And be sure to replace the entire "Your..." including the quotes with your username.
Edited 2025-04-21 17:02 by SimpleSafeName

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Posted: 07:37am 21 Apr 2025

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It is good to see that you have it working.
I will change the install instructions to

sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev libqt5webkit5

It installs more than we need but Ubuntu decided to drop the preferred package.

Cinnamon is different to Mate (naturally) so to create the desktop shortcut.
right click on the desktop and "create a new launcher"
give it a name
browse to the MMEdit executable and save.

Then right click on the shortcut and open with the text editor.
Change the ICON to point to the mme.ico file
and save

do the same for MMCC

Remember that CASE is important in Linux.
MMEdit is not the same as MMEdit

Note that MMEdit behaves slightly differently to the Windows version.

Jim

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