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WhiteWizzard
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  Grogster said   75mA is not much current to play with, Mr. Wizzard. .. I do like the adafruit unit though, and if you did not drive it's output very hard, you could probably do it all within 75mA or so - you'd have to try it and see.


I have a stereo module to try and play with (can't remember where I put it though). Will see how 'quiet' it is when restricting it to 75mA's.

I am trying to make a kids 'toy' that asks questions (thinking of each question being a MP3 file). So need it clear enough to be heard when held in hands (i.e. a short distance only). I am not building a nightclub (which is where your amp comes in )!!
 
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  WhiteWizzard said  I am trying to make a kids 'toy' that asks questions (thinking of each question being a MP3 file).


Then why not design it to drive a pair of earbuds, that can be quite loud on low power, and the kids parents my appreciate it too...

You could then plug in a pair of powered PC speakers if you needed the whole room to listen in.

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  Chris Roper said   . . . why not design it to drive a pair of earbuds, that can be quite loud on low power, and the kids parents my appreciate it too...

You could then plug in a pair of powered PC speakers if you needed the whole room to listen in.


That was my initial plan; but there will be groups of two/three/four kids at a single 'toy' so they all need to hear it.

Mobile phone 'amp/speakers' can't draw too much power surely???

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Some tiny speakers are here.

Cheap too.

This mono SOIC amp with DC volume control might be useful for your purposes.

This amp is cheap and simple, but does need a DC control voltage for the volume control. This could possibly be via a PWM output and RC filter?
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  WhiteWizzard said  Mobile phone 'amp/speakers' can't draw too much power surely???


I have never worked with the audio component of a phone but have used Cellular Modules in a couple of projects and the Battery/PSU had to be expected to supply a minimum of 2A at 3V to support the Cellular Components. So a Cell phone has the capacity to supply a lot more power than 75ma to its audio subsystem.
Not sure if they do but the capacity is certainly there.

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  Chris Roper said   . . . the Battery/PSU had to be expected to supply a minimum of 2A at 3V to support the Cellular Components. So a Cell phone has the capacity to supply a lot more power than 75ma to its audio subsystem.
Not sure if they do but the capacity is certainly there.


A GSM modem can draw up to 2A when first powered up and it is seeking a network - hence why they need that capacity. However, in standby (and once locked onto a network) they draw considerably less (typically under 100mA in standby).

The screen/backlight draws the most power inside a phone. All other components (apart from amp) typically draw microamps (things such as compass, proximity sense, capacitive touch-screen sense).

Low-cost greetings cards that incorporate sound/speech play it through a thin piezo element. Only thing is that they are 'samples' sounds and this is not a practical approach for what I need.

Will spend the evening on Google to see what is being used in tablets & phones.


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  viscomjim said   It uses the MP3TF16P unit. Serial comms.


Thank you Jim.

Just doing a quick search on this item (not the entire CG board), I'm getting a clear impression that the audio amp has no uC control, only the wave player IC on the MP3TF16.



That page shows a little MMbasic library with volume control commands.
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HankR
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  CircuitGizmos said  
  HankR said  
  viscomjim said   It uses the MP3TF16P unit. Serial comms.


Thank you Jim.

Just doing a quick search on this item (not the entire CG board), I'm getting a clear impression that the audio amp has no uC control, only the wave player IC on the MP3TF16.



That page shows a little MMbasic library with volume control commands.


CG,

Are you speaking about your CG page? That's not the page I was looking at. I was looking at a Chinese page which indicates that the IC on the MP3TF16P module which is under uC control is the DA/Codec IC, not the audio amp IC.

Therefore even hacking into the MP3TF16 module would not produce access to a uC controlled audio IC that would accept analog audio in.

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