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  brucepython said  
This month's weirdly out-of-place article on nuclear reactors is probably going to push me over the edge.

It's hard to find a reason for that article to even be printed, especially at such length. I'm sure few readers of SC and this forum will be abandoning their current wind, solar and water generator projects to start exploiting radioactive substances in their shed, nor would they wish to.



I actually found the article quite interesting.

Along with December's article on Supercritical Steam Power Plants.

Not interested in starting a Pro/Anti-Neuc debate, I'm neutral on that front, seeing merits either way.

Output figures are impressive.

Solar, Wind & others all have their merit, but probably haven't developed to the stage where they can sustain our base load.

Does make you wonder what we'll see in the future though.

Will my 2kV (1700W really), Honda Genny, be replaced by a 5kV device the size of a brick at some stage.

I don't think the problem is the technology, but the Maturity of our infrastructure management & their ability to do things right.

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  Grogster said  
I don't say any of this to put anyone off, as I was one of the "SMD haters" myself only a few years ago, but once I had a go at it, I found it really WAS as easy and beautifully fast as in the demo videos on YouTube from the likes of Dave from EEVBlog fame.

A kit such as this one for US$8.50 comes with a board and sample components is a really good place to start, without having to worry about cooking a valuable chip or PCB etc.



Thanks for pointing this out, it's very interesting.

Take Peters Ultimate backpack for example...

I wouldn't consider giving it a go at this stage.
Inexperience with SMD,

But way more put off by potential failure.
It would be hugely disappointing to complete it & have it fail.


The practice board sound like a great idea in this respect.

I'm curious, does it do something in the end, or is just a paper weight.

It would be interesting if there was a variation available that contained a totally non-functional area, along with a working space that could be completed last & gave feedback on any faults in the workmanship of components placed in that area.

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  vegipete said   Getting off-topic from the SC issue but how important is the stereo aspect of (some) microscopes compared to the digital camera displayed on a monitor?


The 3D vision from the stereo microscope is very nice. I prefer it over the flat USB microscope for board work.

The advantage of having the image on screen is the ability to leave my reading glasses on, not something I can do with the stereo microscope.

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Matherp wrote
  Quote  Vision isn't ever the limiting factor although manual dexterity might sometimes be




Unfortunately with increasing age the hands arent as steady as they used to be. Looking at the hot end of a soldering iron waving around under high magnification is a little daunting. 1206 size and some soic devices are not to bad anything smaller becomes very frustrating.
I look fwd to some of the more exotic mites with the multi multi pin chips already soldered in place.

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  palcal said  
If there is anything in the Micromite line that you would like soldered up send me a PM, I can do the surface mount for you and you can do the rest.

That's very kind of you Paul, and you have my sincere thanks for the offer. While I'm not engaged in anything requiring tiny parts at present (I've been away from home for the past six weeks and am likely to be on the road again over the next three or four) I'll keep that in mind should the necessity arise. It's also yet another reminder of the cooperation and generosity typical of people on this excellent forum. Edited by brucepython 2016-06-19
 
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You sound like you are doing the Grey Nomad thing. If you ever pass through Townsville give me a yell.
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  Phil23 said  I'm curious, does it do something in the end, or is just a paper weight.


It's a paper weight.

Even with shaky hands, so long as the chip was correctly aligned and taped firmly down so it can't move, the iron won't care and the solder will still reflow fine.

You will be surprised by the surface-tension of the solder.
It will stick to the pins and the pads, and not bridge the pins - if you have the right amount of solder on the tip of your iron.

It certainly helps if you have a steady hand though.
Having said that, I don't want anyone with gentle tremors to think that SMD is beyond them because of that - it all depends on how much you want to do it.

There is always the solder-paste and stencil approach, and then the parts can actually be aligned quite badly, and when that solder-paste reflows, the aforementioned surface-tension just pulls the parts into alignment - it's really quite sexy.

Have a look at this video.

Note how some parts are completely out of alignment, but the reflow process causes the component to auto-align itself. Surface-tension is magic in action.

Reflow ovens are quite easy and cheap to make.
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  Grogster said  
  Phil23 said  I'm curious, does it do something in the end, or is just a paper weight.


It's a paper weight.

Even with shaky hands, so long as the chip was correctly aligned and taped firmly down so it can't move, the iron won't care and the solder will still reflow fine.


Found these, and ordered a couple. Dirt cheap at a Buck each, and they give a little confirmation that the job was successful.

It's description raises a couple of questions about my gear though.

I've got a 170 Amp Inverter Welder,
GP & Low Hydrogen Rod.

Will that suit & which rods?

Or should I grab a Handpiece & gas & use it in TIG mode.

Just want to make sure I start on the right foot when I "Practice my Welding".

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The gas should do it.
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Yeah, I'd go with the TIG
that 60/40 filler wire can be messy though
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I see in the July edition Leo has once again used his position as a publisher of a electronics hobby magazine to promote his personal views on politics and fossil fuels. Well timed just before an election. Its good the way Silicon Chip include the Publisher Letter on their web site, makes it easier for me to decide if I will buy that edition or not.

Whats annoying is his views of green supporters are totally off the mark. I live a green lifestyle, I've voted green, but also voted left and right, it depends on the policies at the time and what idiot they have in charge. For a start, most of the "green" voters that I've spoken to DO NOT want to stop all mining. Like me, most sensible green voters only want to stop new coal power stations been built, but we dont want to shut down existing coal stations, rather let them complete their life until they are no longer financially viable to maintain, and hopefully migrating to cleaner technology and training their employees in the process. I have no interest in shutting down any existing mine, we need the resources, including coking coal. Any idiot knows we need coking coal to make steel, and always will. And the "windmills are made from steel" argument is just silly. But while we have existing coal mines loosing money and laying off workers, its seams dumb opening a new coal mine.

The same with oil, we need oil for transportation while we migrate to cleaner alternatives. We also need oil for plastics and just about every other material we use. Drill away, but lets not waste it, think about the following generations in 100 or 1000 years time.

And yes, despite what has been said in Silicon Chip, it is practical to live off grid using existing battery technology. I've been doing it for 4 years, and my electricity supply is much more reliable than anyone else in my neighborhood. My power isn't free, I still need to replace batteries, but once you do the maths, my electricity cost about 20% of regular grid power. Yes, its worth while.

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@Glenn,

Well said. My sentiments exactly.
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Those that understand binary and those that don't.
 
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In defense of the Silicon Chip magazine, I would be running out of ideas and having stale thought processes after so long in the business.
There is a lot of expertise out there so maybe some practical suggestions that would interest beginners and experts alike would help.
I've been thinking of using a micromite as a weather station. Home built hall effect anemometer with the humidity and temperature sensor. I just don't know how to calibrate to wind speed. Maybe add in wireless later as a secondary project.
 
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  Gizmo said   I live a green lifestyle, I've voted green, but also voted left and right, it depends on the policies at the time and what idiot they have in charge.[/quote]

I certainly would not describe myself as a "Green Supporter".

That said, it doesn't stop me embarking on Solar based projects and being efficient with energy.

The stuff I've posted about Ceiling heat recovery;
That's proved very effective in the late Autumn months;
It made a substantial reduction on my gas & firewood usage in that pre-winter period.

Same with Solar heating on the Spa. I suppose I could afford the electricity, but why not do it in a more economical way. Long term it's a better option.

The figures there are impressive too.

The lighting in this place is mostly as efficient as I can find;
Even added movement sensors to one of the offices recently.
The lights which previously ran about 9 hours a day now switch off after the room has been vacant for 10 minutes.
Be interesting to know what the actual runtime is there, (72Watts worth of Fluros).

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For a start, most of the "green" voters that I've spoken to DO NOT want to stop all mining. Like me, most sensible green voters......
[/quote]

I think sensible is the key, unfortunately we hear the most noise from the more Extremes....

I could continue......

But basically agree with everything you say Glenn.

We do need energy these days to survive, it's part of our Life style, just requires the right common sense approach to the change.

Cheers

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I had to read that after your post Gizmo, and have to admit it's a bit of a loaded column this month.
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You're spot on Glenn - the first thing I do when SC arrives for the month is read his Editorial to see what rubbish he's spouting this time. This month was a hum-dinger!

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  Gizmo said  [ ... ] We also need oil for plastics and just about every other material we use. Drill away, but lets not waste it, think about the following generations in 100 or 1000 years time [ ... ]
Glenn


i'm pleased that at least one other person in the world is aware of this - for years i've been telling anyone who will listen of how the real worry about running out of oil is: no more plastic! oil is an incredibly valuable resource that will, one day, be scarce. it is something far too important to (today) be burning for electricity or transportation.

in our future, be it 10, 100, or 1000 years from now, i personally see PV cells printed onto the roofing iron that covers our houses, and that source of electricity used to (a) heat water used to provide warmth at night, and, (b) used to charge a liquid salt battery stashed away at the end of the garden. i see liquid fuels used to power vehicles, in the form of biodiesel or methanol. i also see many more products made out of wood, ceramic, and metal, as plastics will be far too valuable to waste on ballpoint pens and shopping bags.

alas, i do not see electric cars and windmills. i feel both have quite practical engineering issues that will see other paths followed.


cheers,
rob :-)


btw, is there not any alternative to 'coking coal' for the making of steel? given a (hypothetical) unlimited supply of cheap electrical energy, can one not manufacture an alternative material?Edited by robert.rozee 2016-06-29
 
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Of course Glenn is not biased is he!


If you don't like the mag don't buy it, at least we have an electronics mag in Aus.


I often wonder what happens to the statement you see on this forum "I have this great idea in mind" and that is the last you ever hear of it.

I read this forum and Silicon Chip because I enjoy the posts and articles I may not agree with everything but that is life.Edited by centrex 2016-06-29
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  robert.rozee said  
in our future, be it 10, 100, or 1000 years from now, i personally see PV cells printed onto the roofing iron that covers our houses[/quote]

Well we already have Solar Paint, that can only evolve.

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alas, i do not see electric cars and windmills. i feel both have quite practical engineering issues that will see other paths followed.
[/quote]

Biggest challenge I see with electric cars is charge time & long distance range.

Why on earth can't they be run off say 4 king sized "AA" style batteries?
Just pull into the Servo, & swap the 3 flat ones out for fresh ones...

There would only need to be a few standard sizes.

The flat ones get wheeled out the back for a solar charge.

For extended range, miniature gas turbine generators to supplement batteries.
I'm guessing at cruise speeds power requirement would be around 20kW.

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  centrex said   Of course Glenn is not biased is he!


In what way? I've already said I've voted for most major parties at some time. I lean left, voted green once, and voted for little Johnny twice, if you need to know.

  centrex said  
If you don't like the mag don't buy it, at least we have an electronics mag in Aus.


Depending on the editorial, sometimes I dont buy it. I do miss the days when we had several electronics magazines. Seams like the one we have left is determined to alienate half its reader base.

  centrex said  
I often wonder what happens to the statement you see on this forum "I have this great idea in mind" and that is the last you ever hear of it.


lost me there.

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