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toml_12953
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  matherp said  Slightly modified layout based on constructive (blunt) criticism on the Raspberry Pi forum. Probably makes no functional difference but definitely better.

Gerber_PCB1_2025-06-27.zip


BOM_Board1_PCB1_2025-06-27.zip




I just ordered 5 of these. I only need one so if anyone in the US or Canada needs one, I'd sell it for $25.00, including shipping. It may sound expensive but it's cheaper than ordering the minimum from JLC. Oh, BTW, I'll include the two 32-pin headers but you'll have to solder them on yourself.
 
circuit
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Posted: 08:02pm 21 Jul 2025
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  PhenixRising said  I for one, would like to have the hi-res version of this


I rather lost the plot on this one; I caught a rather bad dose of Covid shortly after my original post and that took me out of a lot of activities for a surprisingly long time.  Surprising because I had had every available dose of vaccine provided by the NHS.  Anyway, I am now fully back on my feet and catching up with life in a wide range of activities.  

Firstly, here is a corrected form of the original image:



As for a high resolution version, I have not tried this before, but here is a .PDF upload;


Pico2350DIL - Peter Mather Design.pdf
 
PhenixRising
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PDF is great, many thanks  
 
circuit
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Posted: 01:25pm 03 Aug 2025
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May I ask for some advice, please, on power supplies.  The original Pi Pico boasts a "flexible power system (ref Picomite Manual)".  This buck-boost SMPS supply allows an input voltage of 1.8 to 5.5 volts and the VSYS pin is connected to the VBUS and USB input through a diode.  I use Picomites for embedded control and therefore I normally connect in my external 5.0 v. supply to the VSYS pin via a Schottky diode. (In fact, given that the SMPS supply will work right down  to 1.8 volts, I normally just use a 1N4002 diode as the forward voltage drop will make little difference to the buck-boost unit.  This works brilliantly, giving me plenty of horsepower for my peripheral chips.

My problem is, how does all this translate to the Pico2350DIL.  I need to power it externally through the 5 volt pins and to simultaneously connect the USB for programming.  I thought to put a diode between my 5 volt supply and the feed to the whole circuit, (Pico2350DIL+various interface chips and 5v IRLED relays etc) but given the not quite so favourable drop-out voltage of the AMS117 at a possible 1.3 volts, there is virtually no headroom over the diode forward voltage drop (and I cannot seem to make out if there is a diode protection on the board between the USB and the regulator).  

My current compromise is to load the firmware over the USB with the external 5v board supply disconnected, then to program and interact over the GP8/GP9 console connection, however, I would much prefer a configuration analogous to the standard 2040 boards. (and I would like GP8/GP9 back for other purposes).

What would I be advised to do to power the Pico2350 from a 5 volt external source and still maintain a protected USB connection?
Edited 2025-08-03 23:28 by circuit
 
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If you look at the PCB with the USB-C at the top, there is a thick track coming out from under the USB-C to the right of the connector.This then splits in two, one part leg goes to the AMS1117 and the other to the top right 5V pin. If you cut the thick track before the split it will isolate the USB supply. If you really want to be fancy you could expose the copper either side of the cut and solder on a SMD 1N5819 schottky diode - there should be just about enough space.
If you haven't purchased the PCBs yet I can easily add the diode and post you some new gerbers
Edited 2025-08-04 00:18 by matherp
 
circuit
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Peter, as ever, thank you.  Scalpel at the ready, 2350DIL now under the microscope and about to sever the artery.  I haven't got any 5819s in stock, but they are now in my Mouser basket ready for implantation later in the week!
 
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What I did was make up a USB cable, sans 5v wire.
 
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