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| VK4AYQ Guru  Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Australian Kids are Living in Climate of Fear - by Bruce McDougall and Jenny Dillon, Daily Telegraph - July 9, 2011 Primary school children are being terrified by lessons claiming climate change will bring "death, injury and destruction" to the world unless they take action. On the eve of Prime Minister Julia Gillard's carbon tax package announcement, psychologists and scientists said the lessons were alarmist, created unneeded anxiety among school children and endangered their mental health. Climate change as a "Doomsday scenario" is being taught in classrooms across Australia. Resource material produced by the Gillard government for primary school teachers and students states climate change will cause "devastating disasters". "As well as their terrible impact on people, animals and ecosystems they cause billions of dollars worth of damage to homes and other buildings," the material says. Australian National University's Centre for the Public Awareness of Science director Dr Sue Stocklmayer said climate change had been portrayed as "Doomsday scenarios with no way out". Dr Stocklmayer said she was not a climate-change sceptic but worried that "too much time was spent presenting scary scenarios, especially to young people". "(Children) feel incredibly despondent and helpless in the face of all this negative information," she said. "To put all of this before our children ... is one of the most appalling things we can do to (them). "The public is suffering from enormous fatigue on negative information ... rather than say polar bears are going to die, we have to look locally at addressing solutions." Child psychologist Kimberley O'Brien also said the language of climate change should be "toned down". "Kids are naturally interested in cyclones and volcanoes but (educators) should stick to the facts," she said. "They should be aware that kids do have nightmares." Psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg called on educators to be "more circumspect and present both sides (of the climate-change debate)". "When you repeat things over and over to young people who don't have the cognitive maturity and emotional maturity to process this stuff, you end up creating unnecessary anxiety," he said. Federal Schools Minister Peter Garrett said the government would not stop the teaching of climate science, despite moves in Britain for the subject to be withdrawn. In a video on climate change funded by the state government, one teacher from a public school in Sydney's southwest explained: "Students are being bombarded from all sides about climate change ... it can be a very scary thing (for) a child." The school activities are championed by the Federal Department of Climate Change and Energy Efficiency. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/australian-ki ds-are-living-in-climate-of-fear/story-e6freuzr-1226091 Foolin Around |
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norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Just read the posts and links that have been made whilst I was away fishing, bloody scary and cements the view I have that climate change is a religion, a very dangerous and destructive trouble making religion. Now, Bob, as your latest post has shown it is brainwashing our children. No minority group should be allowed to influence "democratic" governments as much as this group has. Back in the dark ages the churches suppressed the sciences and slowed mans development for centuries. Now the "science" of climate change and those who wish to follow it, do so under the guise of science. They enjoy the fruits of labour brought about by these "terrible polluting companies", they are using the taxes they pay and we pay to bring them and our standard of living down. Will this fear bring back the dark ages or are they in fact the enlightened ones? I do know if we all bend to go with them they will resurface with another excuse for us to continue to support them, as the 2000 bug and the ozone hole "movements" have shown. It is a strong statement to make, I believe whilst the movement has some well intentioned individuals, the majority are parasites riding the wave for personal gain, but man has and will always do this. Think I`ll go fishing, coming Bob. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| windlight Guru Joined: 03/03/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 331 |
When I was at school it was all about atomic bombs, the world is going to end etc, those who lived through this period will remember a similar feeling of insecurity, reluctance to learn since there is no future etc. The perpetrators of this current doom and gloom know they can not loose, if such dramatic change does not occur then it's "taking action when we did averted the catastrophe" and if it does play out to some extent then it's "we were stopped from taking the necessary remedial action early enough by the climate change skeptics" We live in a period of extreme government excess, local state and federal, pink bats, school halls and even the Cairns council paid $30,000 for a survey to see if ratepayers knew their representative and what sort of job they they though their councilor was doing. It was so damming of most that they voted to keep it secret! Of course excess does not stop at money but as pointed out by Bob is spruked in offensive excess about any pet project/pending tax etc that this labor government has in its sights, like all things climate or government it has all happened in the past and will again in the future. Those most affected are exactly as pointed out, the children who because of their age do not have the life experiences to see this rhetoric for what it is, by all means curb excess but mother nature is much smarter than us humans, yes corrections will hurt us but we can not stop it. Allan "I like this place and willingly could waste my time in it" - (Act II, Scene IV). |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi All We live an a doom and gloom, and scam and maim, society at present and the degree of indoctrination by governments and commercial interests is made easier by the CRETANIZER sitting in the lounge room. All the changes we cause to the environment will effect us or our descendants in the longer term, but it will be gradual, a bit like creeping death, and in most cases will be fitted into a so called normal life situation. Just think if we where to bring a person that was alive 200 years ago into our society that is normal to us, they would be scared to death and have a nervous break down. The population will be reduced by natural or induced circumstances and life for the living will go on for the living as they watch the rest die off on the news while having Kentucky fried rat for supper, or perhaps worm farm protein made into hamburger patties. What a wonderful outlook. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
Hi guys, One more link. Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
In the link above, you will find a paragraph: [quote]...since according to Holdren this Planetary Regime will control “all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable” (which basically means all goods) as well as all food, and commerce on the oceans and any rivers “that discharge into the oceans” (i.e. 99% of all navigable rivers). What’s left? Not much. [/quote] Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Vasi The control has been in motion for the last century, by commercial and governmental control increasing for various excuses such as protecting the environment and protecting commercial investment, money is the God of the world and must be protected at all costs. The only bright side I see is that their schemes depend on the fact that there are consumers to pay for the products and services, so they will let us the sheepel survive to fulfill that role, but skinned to the maximum to be sure. We are going through the bird in a shrinking cage syndrome but most do not notice it, they just go on and make the system richer by their efforts, and when they die the life's work is returned to the state by various means. In the mean time in between time ain't we got fun. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Norcold Enjoy your fishing while you can because there will soon be a rule or regulation that says we can't do that either, and yes i would love to come but unfortunately the pension doesn't allow for such luxuries. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
From: Gary L. Bauer BREAKING NEWS: President Obama reportedly threatens to halt Social Security checks and perhaps even paychecks to our troops if the debt ceiling isn't raised by August 2nd. In an interview scheduled to air tonight on CBS News, Obama reportedly tells anchor Scott Pelley, "I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Â…this is not just a matter of Social Security checks. These are veterans' checks, these are folks on disability and their checks." I hope you understand exactly what is happening here. Barack Obama is once again essentially holding our soldiers and senior citizens "hostage" to his ideological demands. He did this during the recent debate over a possible government shutdown. There would be no problem raising the debt limit if Obama would agree to cut spending. But he is so committed to his extreme ideological agenda that he is threatening to cut off Social Security checks in order to force Republicans to vote for tax increases. This is one of the ugliest things I have seen in all my years in Washington. How uncivil is it for the president to threaten our senior citizens over his demand for higher taxes? Obama feels comfortable doing this because he knows the media won't dare to question him. 
NEWS FLASH!!! THE POPULATION OF THE USA ARE PUSHING FOR A NAME CHANGE, FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO "AMERICA THE TITANIC". Foolin Around |
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| neil0mac Senior Member  Joined: 26/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 210 |
With S & P (amongst others) talking about a US downgrade from AAA rating, wouldn't it be the 'smart thing' to (modestly?) increase taxes AND cut spending. But then, The US is in such deep financial trouble that 'modest' corrections are probably just not going to do the trick. Of course he have "Greek type' riots but the US economy might have a chance to recover a bit. |
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| neil0mac Senior Member Joined: 26/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 210 |
So why doesn't he just leave? . |
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| norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Bob, about recreational fishing you have a very valid point, in our lifetime we have seen the fishing access to areas becoming very restricted. Also the rabble are making a lot of noise about our inhumane way of treating fish, and I agree it is inhumane but we are only animals not some pumped up species the intellects and religion portray us as. Norcold was my trading name through the late 70`s,80`s and 90`s. Proudly manufactured low voltage refrigeration for 4WD`s and solar applications(not affiliated with the US firm) My sales pitch was they would outlast the original purchaser thay are also going to outlast the builder. First name is Vic. Back in the formulation days of Greenpeace I was a donator, now I view them as a parasitic bunch of intellects who have turned away from science, just a branch of the current climate change religous parasites. Just recently they illegally destroyed a trial GM wheat crop of CSSIRO`s. Without GM we will never feed the world. But you know through all the negative stuff that has been shown by this thread. Man will progress, there will always be Copernucus`s, Newton`s and Einstein`s, these genius`s (and of course many more)and their science seen through the rabble of their day. Technology is as we live finding solutions to pollution, and not because the parasites are making a lot of noise but by individual effort of quiet achievers, and certainly not through government intervention although politicians will claim so. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| electrondady1 Senior Member Joined: 12/02/2009 Location: CanadaPosts: 208 |
the world is changing gentle men. try not to get caught on the wrong side of history. |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Electrondady You are so right the whole world is changing and we are on the wrong side of history as some form of drastic change is due, maybe not in my lifetime as that's just about up, but certainly in our kids lifetimes. it is like bungy jumping just do it and enjoy the ride and hope it doesn't break on your turn. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1450 |
Well as the US and and soon 1/3 of europe will default on debt that Ozzie version of the obamanation refuses to be outdone. By railroading that tax on everything by july of next year be prepared to make your own weapons as we aint allowed to own guns. But the mass's that will default on their mortgage and be thrown on the streets will come wandering looking for ripe places to rob for food. Just one week and the picture is starting to emerge MASS job loss's as business's close as they can't afford this tax on everything. Whats the bet people will say well the GST was supposed to be the end of it all and it wasn't so this tax will be the same. Well lets just see how many business's will close and how many people lose their jobs only to find there isn't another job to goto..... |
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| electrondady1 Senior Member Joined: 12/02/2009 Location: CanadaPosts: 208 |
one very interesting idea i heard was this, everyone on earth goes bankrupt, all at the same time, and we all start again the next day, debt free. it's a world wide domino effect right to the top. who gets caught holding the bag, baron Rothschild? who cares about him ! |
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| neil0mac Senior Member Joined: 26/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 210 |
Which logically leads us to the conclusion that 'wealth' is only created from primary industries/natural production and labour/time/skill/knowledge. And like 'money' they are only worth what you can get for them. Some form of exchange/barter. 'Inflation' and 'usury' serve no REAL useful purpose. Be prepared to 'live simply'. |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Neil The wealth of the world is held by the privileged few and is generated by the blood sweat and tears of the working class that seldom graduate to the wealthy class because of Tax tariffs and other assorted government imposed conditions, much like the pit horses of the old coal mines, The wealth is the top margin of sales or value adding processes organized by the wealthy. All we can do is to survive in the system and stay alive and well to skim out pittance off the side. Usury is used as a method of control of the masses who do not understand how it is skimming their pittance, and inflation is necessarily for the ongoing advancement of commerce as it generates opportunities for the wealthy to train the consumers of their products while exacting ever increasing monetary profits,it must be controlled however to maintain a stable but ever increasing market place ideal between 2.5 and 3%. As we get older we wake up the the insidious creep of prices of goods and services that the younger generation accept as a normal situation. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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| neil0mac Senior Member Joined: 26/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 210 |
Bob, I used 'wealth' as in 'inherent value' as opposed to 'richness' - or lack thereof. That is only a word variation of the 'living simply' concept. Bob, you're telling a Scot what he already knows. In fact, it was a couple of Scots' that invented the insurance industry, another who invented the share market (aka the East India company) and another who invented 'the bond market' in the times of Napoleon. No wonder that we're called 'canny'! (Equals, ripoff merchants of the highest order.) And the 'unions' and 'businesses' keep us on that creep each trying to 'get ahead of the other mob'! |
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| neil0mac Senior Member Joined: 26/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 210 |
All of which reminds me of my favourite MOST UNLIKELY story. A Jew was walking down Pall Mall throwing away English ten pound notes. A Scot was following him closely, picking up the money - and putting it back in the Jew's pocket. |
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