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andreas Senior Member  Joined: 07/12/2020 Location: GermanyPosts: 226 |
Bliss!!  It's getting more & more comfortable!! I'm very happy!Programm persistence between runs would be a charm  -andreas |
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| KD5ZXG Regular Member  Joined: 21/01/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 53 |
Also tried to copy and paste from notepad to MMBasic for W's full screen editor. Gives an error on the bottom line CLIPBOARD IS EMPTY Edited 2022-01-31 05:07 by KD5ZXG |
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Mixtel90 Guru  Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7505 |
Already mentioned. You won't be able to paste from the clipboard because you're trying to paste onto a pixel-mapped window, not a text file device. I don't think that's ever going to happen. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| KD5ZXG Regular Member Joined: 21/01/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 53 |
Print " comes out as Print ~ Is that a Windows UK keyboard thing? Never encountered that with TeraTerm mitigating communications to Pico. Nor with the DOS version. OK, Shift + 2 gives the doublequote I've been trying to type. Just tried Option Keyboard US. Still does the same ~ thing when I type " Edited 2022-01-31 05:48 by KD5ZXG |
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| KD5ZXG Regular Member Joined: 21/01/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 53 |
The F5 key in the editor does not copy or paste text, only a pixel map? That doesn't sound plausible, more likely an independent text clipboard simply not yet linked to Windows. Can't export text from MMBasic's mark and copy to notepad Ctrl+V either. Wasn't really expecting, but had to try. Not surprising, the DOS version shares the Windows clipboard problem. Just not the keyboard problem. Edited 2022-01-31 06:28 by KD5ZXG |
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| toml_12953 Guru Joined: 13/02/2015 Location: United StatesPosts: 390 |
Keyboard repeat works TOO well! After typing a few lines, I get repeating colons printing. I can still type but the colons don't stop. |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7505 |
@KD5ZXG See the post from RetroJoe 26 Jan. Peter's first comment quoted a couple of posts later, followed by Peter's "That's the way it is. You are trying to pastes a text string into a pixel mapped graphics window. It ain't going to work. You can't have everything " Unless the text string can be converted into a bitmapped image first, in which case it's like inserting a picture into a picture, the formats are incompatible, I'm afraid. The display for the windows version seems to be like the graphics mode of a LCD display to me. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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disco4now Guru Joined: 18/12/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 971 |
PRINT MM.VER is good. ? MM.VER will give repeating ???????. Looks like something affecting SHIFT characters Latest F4 Latest H7 FotS |
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| robert.rozee Guru Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 2400 |
i really don't understand this. on Windows (and Linux, and every other O/S with a GUI), all windows are "pixel mapped graphics windows". even Window's own console is pixel-based, the character-based aspect of it is just a construct of the programming that manages that window. consider GFXterm - where you can draw graphics over the text (part of the design brief). the 'text' layer is entirely faked using a graphic object. once text is placed upon it, that text exists purely as a collection of dots. however, the program code of GFXterm also maintains an array of ASCII characters so that it knows what character was placed in each location within the text window. when you 'paste' or drop some text onto the OLC-MMbasic window, that text is made available to the program code that Peter has written. it is up to that program code to decide what to do with the text. it may, for instance, decide to pipe at a slow rate it into the routines that it usually uses to handle keyboard input (as GFXterm does when pasting into the MMbasic editor). it has nothing to do with any special 'text' or 'graphic' property of the window being pasted into. cheers, rob :-) |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7505 |
I suspect it might have more to do with how PixelGameEngine works. It may not have anything in it to do that. I don't know, I've never used it or even looked at it. I don't think you can compare how Windows does things with how MMBasic does things. Especially when the *single* developer for the MMBasic port has had to use an intermediary software layer and has had about 10 days to reach this stage. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| flip Senior Member Joined: 18/07/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 114 |
Hi all, Peter, I don't know if its because I'm running a dog of a machine (Single CPU, ATOM CPU 1.33GHz Pendo tablet), but only the versions up to and including the 3rd published version...(NOW with full GUI and Mouse support) work at all. All newer versions (up-to and including pa5) open initial black window and nothing happens after that Older versions open two windows and run properly for me, except (I know they may be fixed...just mentioning if it helps):... > key mapping (must press @ to get ") > font size in windows - I hit a 'magic' (i.e. random) key press that persistently left the fonts massive (like a 10x5 character window whichever EXE I start - not a Windows thing as far as I can tell) Phil Edit for readability + PS love your work. Edited 2022-01-31 17:40 by flip |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10067 |
pa6 MMBasic.zip This should support UK, US, FR and DE (GR) keyboards Please report any success and/or issues I have an issue with the ^ character on FR and DE keyboards as it doesn't seem to produce any recognisable keycode. Until I fix this: on the German keyboard you can use SHIFT-3 on the French keyboard you can use SHIFT-$ |
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| toml_12953 Guru Joined: 13/02/2015 Location: United StatesPosts: 390 |
I still get repeating colons when I try to type one |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 7505 |
I wonder if the FR and DE "^" key produces multiple code sequences? Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| toml_12953 Guru Joined: 13/02/2015 Location: United StatesPosts: 390 |
Here's a curious thing: If I press Ctrl-C while the colons are printing, I get a > prompt with no repeating characters until I start typing again. It's as if there's a program running that's making them print. |
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| disco4now Guru Joined: 18/12/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 971 |
English(Australian) US Keyboard No issue with repeating keys now. The following three characters seem to be transposed. ~ gives @ @ gives " " gives ~ Latest F4 Latest H7 FotS |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10067 |
Thanks, I can replicate but no idea yet why it happens. Have you seen it on any character other than :? |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10067 |
Have you reset OPTION KEYBOARD ? loading the firmware would have reset it to UK |
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| twofingers Guru Joined: 02/06/2014 Location: GermanyPosts: 1527 |
[Feedback for PA6] Hi Peter, the german layout works nearly perfekt.  I am glad that you understood and implemented everything so well. THANKS a lot!  But AltGr+85 should be ASCII 126 = ~ 93 should be (suggestion: ^39 = ') Shift+93 should be ASCII 96 = ` 90,94,88 are german Umlauts and should return nothing to keep it clean (IMHO). The circumflex is a special character and regularly waits for a second keystroke. AltGr+92 returns only one circumflex. Should be okay! The repeat for BACKSPACE is not working yet. Best regards Michael causality ≠ correlation ≠ coincidence |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 10067 |
OK found it. It is caused by releasing the shift key before the colon. I'll clear the autorepeat when shift is released |
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