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disco4now

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Posted: 10:20am 31 Jan 2022

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Same English (Australian ) US Keyboard

' gives #
# also gives # so don't have the '

I also get repeated key, but not sure how to make it happen consistently
Originally when I was typing this command. It is wrong syntax but started repeating the closing bracket before the command was sent.
BOX 100,100,100,100,RGB(RED),RGB(RED) ... the last ) just repeated then.

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matherp
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Posted: 02:08pm 31 Jan 2022

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New version with more improvements to keyboard/language.

MMBasic.zip

US is tested with onscreen keyboard and works perfectly for me - please could someone confirm with a real keyboard

For France and Germany accent keys (e.g. circumflex) need double click as per normal use to give a single character. This needed a time-delay to get working. If you have a slower PC and it doesn't work let me know and I'll increase the timer

Note back single quote will always show as a degree-symbol as this is what is set in the fonts

UPDATE 15:00 UTC Swedish keyboard added
Edited 2022-02-01 00:56 by matherp

twofingers
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Posted: 03:09pm 31 Jan 2022

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[Feedback for PA7]
Hi Peter,

this version works even better!

But

Shift+84 should be ASCII ^58 = :
(was already working in PA6)

Shift+93 is now circumflex. So now we have three times that circumflex.

I don't know if that's your intention.`
EDIT: The 2. PA7 returns for shift+93 the degree sign. Better!

Key 92 works now perfectly. I get for one keystrike a circumflex or (with shift) the degree sign.

Many thanks
Michael

Strange: I get a virus alarm for the 2. PA7
Edited 2022-02-01 01:18 by twofingers

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lizby
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Posted: 04:52pm 31 Jan 2022

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My US keyboard is perfect for all the symbol keys.

PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed

matherp
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Posted: 05:14pm 31 Jan 2022

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pa9

MMBasic.zip

Hopefully fixes the last bits on the FR and DE keyboards
You can now run MMbasic with the name of a program to load and run

e.g. from a DOS BOX

mmbasic benchmark

will run the program "benchmark.bas". If the program doesn't exist then MMBasic will just start normally at the command prompt

goc30

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Posted: 05:27pm 31 Jan 2022

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matherp said pa9

MMBasic.zip

Hopefully fixes the last bits on the FR and DE keyboards

Ok for me, it is perfect!!

I have other problem: with Pa9, I can't use graphicals function, like "line", "circle", etc

my test program :

testgraf1.zip
Edited 2022-02-01 03:31 by goc30

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[Feedback for PA9 - Option keyboard de]
Hi Peter,

no issues here! You made it! THX!

Best regards
Michael

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darthvader
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Posted: 06:19pm 31 Jan 2022

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matherp said pa9

MMBasic.zip

Hopefully fixes the last bits on the FR and DE keyboards

The goc30 French KB work and mine too , great work :) thanks Peter !
Edited 2022-02-01 04:21 by darthvader

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Practice is when everything work but no one know why ;)

andreas

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Posted: 06:26pm 31 Jan 2022

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Hello,

in pa9 and DE keyboard, I cant type a question mark "?", and no "<" and ">". There is no "\" i.e. for integer division and path assignments in option default path C:\...
"+" is "'" and "#" is "^" and "-" is "#" and no "[" and "]"

>option list
OPTION Default mode 9 1024x768
OPTION Default Font 1,1
OPTION Default path C:\andreas\Meine Dokumente\
OPTION Colourcode OFF
OPTION Keyboard DE
Current display 64,128

-andreas

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Posted: 06:45pm 31 Jan 2022

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Hi Andreas,

can you please create a list like that:
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?FID=16&TID=14518#181313

Best regards
Michael

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Plasmamac

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Posted: 06:49pm 31 Jan 2022

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Hi ,

DE - Keyboard

works

like a charm THX Peter
Edited 2022-02-01 04:50 by Plasmamac

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andreas

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@twofingers I thought I did it already? There was a picture containig a "wanted" and a "currently" code generated with pa3.

wanted has meant the code it should be in german and "currently" was what Peters pa3 generated.

https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?FID=16&TID=14518#181313#181284

-andreas

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Quote Hello,

in pa9 and DE keyboard, I cant type a question mark "?", and no "<" and ">". There is no "\" i.e. for integer division and path assignments in option default path C:\...
"+" is "'" and "#" is "^" and "-" is "#" and no "[" and "]"

Sorry but all that works as tested by me and twofingers if you are using a standard DE keyboard. Try OPTION RESET and start again with just OPTION KEYBOARD DE to start

andreas

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Posted: 07:02pm 31 Jan 2022

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can you specify a path in option default path ?
I can't because in pa9 is no \

I'm using an IBM Model "m" and a perixx keyboard
Im running wine under debian linux to start MMBasic.exe

hmm... I could try to start MMBasic in a virtualbox Windows 10 or 11 - have both here..

-andreas

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Posted: 07:05pm 31 Jan 2022

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Quote Im running wine under debian linux to start MMBasic.exe

Is wine mapping the keys? what happens if you set the keyboard to UK or US?

andreas

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Posted: 07:09pm 31 Jan 2022

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Quote Is wine mapping the keys?

I have to look for that - don't know but possible!
-anderas

matherp
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pa10

MMBasic.zip

You can now paste into autosave using ctrl-V
You can also paste into the editor but only a single line will be accepted

twofingers
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@Andreas

andreas said @twofingers I thought I did it already? There was a picture containig a "wanted" and a "currently" code generated with pa3.
...-andreas

Yes, you did it! (I did not realize that. Sorry!

)
I don't understand why your table is different from mine.
I would expect them to be identical.

For UK layout I get the backslash with the key 92 (^) left of the "1".

matherp said You can now paste into autosave using ctrl-V

Very cool!

Edited 2022-02-01 06:03 by twofingers

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andreas

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Posted: 08:11pm 31 Jan 2022

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I tested pa9 with a nativ Windows 10 Fujitsu Notebook, german keyboard layout: works good!

I could not start MMBasic within VirtualBox 6.1 under Windows 7 & Windows 10. - it shows a white window.

Under wine/linux pa5 seems to be the best for me. I put some additional labels on the keys ;-)

So wine seems to have some hidden layer which does not fit - when I open the command windows CMD under wine and type any key, it is correct according to my keyboard but not together with MMBasic :-/

But this is my problem, not yours

-andreas

toml_12953
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Posted: 09:33pm 31 Jan 2022

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matherp said pa10

MMBasic.zip

You can now paste into autosave using ctrl-V
You can also paste into the editor but only a single line will be accepted

Great work!

The repeating colon seems to be gone. Did you find the specific problem or did solving other keyboard issues fix it coincidentally?

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