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| Phil23 Guru  Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
Rant ON Seems some people have little interest in MicroMites.....  Left them behind..... |
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Azure Guru Joined: 09/11/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 446 |
Sorry to see you had some uninvited visitors. Lucky they weren't very smart otherwise they would have taken them. Even if they thought they were something to do with the IOT. If that is where you do your MM work then I need to tidy up my workshop. |
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CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
sorry to hear this Phil. Much gone/damaged?  I often thought I ought to put together a heat-seeking servo-ed laser... 10W infra-red should do... burn a few holes in anyone who got in my place. Does this make me a bad person  |
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| BrianP Senior Member  Joined: 30/03/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 292 |
In our "modern" world you will most likely go to jail & have to pay compensation  |
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| Azure Guru Joined: 09/11/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 446 |
Maybe change that thought to a microwave transmitter facing into the room. Will make them feel a ill after exposure and create problems for them later on in life. |
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| Phil23 Guru Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
7" tablet, LED Torch, ONE bottle of Gin, out of an entire shelf of spirits. All dressed in disposable Hazmat suits with gloves. Seemed more interested in rifling thru the junk mail & other paper work that was about. All of it insignificant. Opened a key locker that contained a house key & the key to the top of a gun safe. The safe it's self has an electronic lock I installed a few years back, electronics robbed from a small personal safe. Arrive on the first camera at 1:22am, departed the same way 1:37pm. 15 minutes spent totally casing things out. Tried a few doors & windows on their exit. $1000,s of bucks of easily disposable items available & seen but not touched. Battery tools, Radio Scanner, personal items & plenty of grog at the bar. Not sure if they visited the neighbours, but they did don the gloves as they walked in, so it seems like we were the first port of call. Not even the slightest bit concerned about the 9 cameras & monitor displaying their presence. |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9610 |
Dumb criminals - you have to laugh sometimes at just how low their IQ must be. I'm glad nothing of any consequence was taken. Scumbags.....  Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
ooh! you got a nasty streak I am glad the collateral was reasonably low (the theft of Gin is a hanging offence here... I think... well it bleedin' should be). The concern for me would be they have seen all the tools and might come back or shoot their mouths off to their equally low-life, scum buddies. Don't want to worry you but fore-warned and all that... Can you get another camera out on the road, just to catch any suspicious drive-bys and licence plates? Get a dog - great company and usually no sticky-fingered prat will bother a place with a dog, even a small one - the noise is unwelcome. |
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| SteveA Regular Member  Joined: 10/03/2017 Location: United KingdomPosts: 48 |
I'd second that, we are in the middle of a row of 5 houses. All our neighbours have been burgled, one several times in the last few years. We have have been very lucky and haven't, but then we have two German Shepherd's who look and sound the part. They are as soft as grease, but please don't tell anyone! |
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| Paul_L Guru Joined: 03/03/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 769 |
Hi Phil, I wouldn't have thought that you would have a hoodlum problem way out in the Australian outback. We don't have problems like this here in bad old New York. The hoodlums here would have backed a truck up and taken everything, including the screen door! My wife and I bought a brand-new two family house in the extreme south east corner of Queens County back in 1968 a week before we were married. We rented the apartment to Rebel and Barbara Stauffer before we were married. They kept the apartment for about six years and we became very good friends. Rebel was quite a character! He grew up in Hollywood Florida on the edge of the Everglades where his best friends were Seminole Indians and he was a licensed alligator trapper in Florida. After serving in the Marines he returned to Florida for a while and started a burglar alarm business. His first client was a guy named Jeff who owned a gas station right on Lake Okeechobee. This guy had a bad hoodlum problem. They kept breaking in to the gas station to steal tools. Rebel built a corral behind the gas station building using concrete blocks to construct a 6 foot high wall. Then he cut a door opening in the concrete block back wall of the gas station and equipped it with a sliding door which could be operated by cables from just inside of the front door of the building. Then he installed in the corral a 10 foot giant salamander which he and his Seminole friends had found somewhere. Jeff named the small dinosaur Junior. When Jeff wanted to close the station for the day he would put an raw chicken on the floor immediately inside of the corral door, then he would open the door to the corral using the cables, wait for Junior to enter and scoop up the chicken, close the corral door and the front door and go home. In the morning, when Jeff wanted to open up the station, he would toss a chicken or two into the corral, crack open the front door, pull the cable to open the corral door, wait for Junior to go outside, close the corral door and open for business. Needless to say, the break-ins stopped immediately. The Florida state police wanted to know where Jeff had gotten Junior. They stopped asking questions when they discovered that Rebel and his berserk Seminole friends were involved. Too bad you can't figure out a way to use the Australian version of Rebel's giant Florida salamander. I think you call them "salties". Just some random thoughts from a crazy Polack. Paul in NY |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
LOL great story! Problem with the UK is if the scummers get a beating while burgling you, you will get nicked - the lunatics have genuinely taken over the asylum. A government should be in fear of its people, not the other way around. I hate things like this - it turns me into someone slightly right of Genghis Khan. |
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| George65 Guru Joined: 18/09/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 308 |
No, it makes you an average hard working, law abiding person that like the rest of us, is sick of scum like this that know very well even if they do get caught it will be a slap on the wrist and they will be back in business inside of 3 hours. Besides, its a lot better than my idea of a 12 Gauge, less noise and mess to clean up. Maybe the best practical idea would be one I heard of where super loud screamers were placed INSIDE the home which made the place too uncomfortable to stay in and drove any intruders off that way. Wow betide any POS that I caught in my house. Wouldn't care how many of them they were, I have enough anger, rage and all the rest of it in me to take any amount out and I also through experience years back have certain items that may be of use secreted around the house that I could grab and use wherever I was. The fact I am officially a medical mental patient would also be a great way for ME to work the system and get off. As for getting arrested for what I did to them, that's easy to get around. Put enough fear into them so they don't ever say a thing. Of course you have to be lucky enough to catch them in the act. I lived in the crime capital of Sydney up to a few months ago but had not locked the back door in 20 odd years and access was as difficult as a low unlocked gate. I always figured anyone that was game enough to get past the 2 Rotties and the Shepherd wasn't going to be stopped by a locked door and it would just be something else I'd have to fix/ replace. Like mentioned above, a lot of our neighbors got rolled but we were Lucky enough to NEVER have any trouble. Still don't lock the doors where we are now even though the beasts ( the savage killers the cat and her kittens would go over to and curl up and sleep with and my kids when they were young would try to ride like ponies) are now gone to the big park in the sky, our Border collie would frighten the crap out of anyone that didn't know her just with her excitement of jumping on strangers to say hello. I thought of putting up camera's but as this sad case shows, I don't believe they are much good now. Mate got robbed and the scumbags were prepared in the self same way. They wear hoodies and face masks so they can look into a camera directly and they still can't be identified sufficiently for charges to be laid and the filth know it. He did manage to catch them trying to steal his HSV and although was over powered by the 4 of them, his Mrs managed to " Disable" one of them sufficiently they were held by neighbors till the cops arrived. My mate left sufficient wounds on 2 others that they ended up in a medical center for treatment. When interviewed by the cops a couple of days later, the bandages were noticed and the description of the wounds from my mate along with the arrest of the known associate at the scene ( who didn't talk) was enough to collar 3 of the 4. His camera's were not much use in identifying them but they did show them casing the joint a few days before but still took precautions with hats, hoodies and glasses so they could not be identified. Another mate turned up last year to his tutoring school one afternoon to hear his business partner screaming at a couple of scumbags that she discovered in the place and loading up laptops and other things. They had some problems with deadbeats before hassling the students and making noise outside causing disruptions. They had called the cops who wouldn't even show up. He's a real quite but highly intelligent guy that is also sizeable and has a real thing for martial arts and MMA. He's living proof of the old adage of " It's the quiet ones you have to watch". He deliberately broke an arm of both of them after they spat on him and beat the crap out of them to the point his partner got scared he would kill them. She did have the good sense to talk to him like she didn't know him and he said he heard her screaming and came into see what was going on. After a hell of a hiding, he threw them out in the back laneway and left. He never bothered with the cops as he figured he would be the one in the sh*t and didn't want the hassel and waste of time anyway and never heard from them afterwards. The low lifes were probably too laid up in bed for a week to bother either. He was worried about reprisals but not had any trouble since. He figures they have probably been locked up or OD'd by now. |
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| Phil23 Guru Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
Yeah not a lot taken considering. Time stamp above is 1:29, but their arrival was 1:22:10, departure 1:37:50. A full 15 minutes, the majority of that spent in the area covered by 5 of the 8 cameras. 3 other cover the yard & entry. The camera's give me over 3/4's of an hour of combined footage & on going thru that, they were really casing. Searching for something specific. Pretty sure they will be back after further instruction from the "Management". Keys in hand of course... |
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| George65 Guru Joined: 18/09/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 308 |
Were you home at the time? |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
they took keys? OK, that is easy enough to thwart but you'll be on edge for a while. I think you are right on the specific search - 15 mins is a long time for them to leave themselves exposed. Maybe that is a good sign - "nothing" to be had which is why they don't care about alerting you to their visit by nicking some booze - minimise the collateral etc. Flood lights and noise are the best ways to deter them, but it doesn't solve the problem... the solution to that sail a bit closer to the judiciaries area of "expertise"... Good luck Phil. I am quite ambivalent about this welfare of human involved in crapping on their fellow man. Not generally in favour of hurting people but I have no problems with this scum and their ilk getting plugged. Google "Tony Martin" - poor b'stard had been burgled over and over and one night (following a lack of police interest and being driven mad by the lack of any option/protection) he took matters into his own hands and blew away the two gypsies that had traveled over 50 miles specifically to burgle him. Killed one, the other walks with a limp. Overwhelming public support - he still went to prison. All the hand-wringing wimps were "aww that is terrible, these lads just need guidance"... check out the survivor's (Brendon Fearon ) rap-sheet before and since... he's a little sweetie *sigh* see? like I said! Somewhere right of Genghis Khan  |
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| Paul_L Guru Joined: 03/03/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 769 |
OK, if you don't like my idea of drafting a giant salamander as a watchdog or triggering a very loud siren then how about a Tesla coil? They're cheap to build and they're reasonably safe, but the giant RF corona will scare the heck out of these idiots. With a little fooling around you could probably get it to excite the phosphors in a bunch of fluorescent lamps which weren't installed in fixtures. That should get their attention. Trigger it with a motion detector. I built one back in the 1940s using a cardboard mailing tube and a cylindrical oatmeal box. Today you'd probably use plastic pipe. Back around 1968 in the middle of the night I ran into a flight crew who refused to fly a 727 from New York to Miami. There was some serious weather along the route and they just didn't want to fly through it so they said that they didn't think the weather radar antenna was tilting properly. They knew that would involve a complicated hours long test involving opening the radome, unbolting and physically tilting the vertical gyro, then measuring the tilt of the radar antenna with a bubble level and a protractor. I did some quick thinking out of the box, went inside, liberated an 8 foot fluorescent lamp from an overhead fixture, went back to the aircraft, asked the captain to come down to the ramp, told the first officer to turn on the radar, held the lamp up in front of the radome, a 6 inch long band glowed, told the first office to tilt the antenna up, the glowing band moved up, told him to tilt the antenna down, the glowing band moved down, and the captain took the aircraft! But ..... there was a black building cleaner pushing a broom on the ramp nearby. He saw me holding this 8 foot fluorescent lamp straight up in the air. Then he saw it light! He lit out across the ramp as fast as he could go and uttered some sort of banshee noise that you could hear for a hundred meters. If you do try the Tesla coil it might be entertaining to have a video camera with audio recording. If you posted the resultant video on YouTube it just might go viral. Paul in NY |
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MicroBlocks Guru Joined: 12/05/2012 Location: ThailandPosts: 2209 |
I would like to trap them. Have a small room that invites them to get in. Maybe a small window so they can see, laptop/ipad that sort of things. Once they get in drop a trap door, make them sweat for at least 48 hours and stream the whole thing live on youtube. :) Microblocks. Build with logic. |
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| Boppa Guru Joined: 08/11/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 814 |
I've often wondered what would happen should they just um.... disappear... Its not likely that they told anyone where exactly they were going.... And even if they did, I suspect the complainants would have a hard time explaining to the police their concerns....  |
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| George65 Guru Joined: 18/09/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 308 |
There is a Vid on the net about this Debt collector in the UK. Some people whom owed big money he was chasing for someone else tried to have him bashed. He wasn't upset with the guy for hire that tried to get him, he settled that then and there, The people that sent him were a different matter. He went round their homes with an associate and his payback and insurance was to film them being bent over a table and violated by the associate and different objects. The threat was if they didn't pay and tried anything else, the footage would be distributed to all their friends and family and go on the net with their name on it. Suffice to say thee was no more problem but he guy did admit one of the people filmed tried to commit suicide some time later due to the shame and worry of the vid getting out. This is the sort of thing ( in theory) one really needs to do. Embarrass and humiliate the little scum while putting the fear of everything into them at the same time. Myself, I reckon taking them somewhere remote, tying them to a tree and dousing them in petrol would work. Wouldn't have to light them up, just the fear of being burnt would be enough and leaving them there for a while, maybe till someone else found them, would give them time to re asses their life choices. A mate of mine, now a director in a very large company, went wild on drugs and screaming round in cars and Bikes when he was young and stupid and had several run ins with the cops. He got kidnapped off the street in broad daylight, thrown into a van and blindfoled, gagged and tied up and driven for hours to a place where he was stripped naked and chained up in a shed by the ankle with the old fashioned manacles like from the convict days. Someone he didn't know came and gave him basic food and water and never spoke a word to him and he was left to relieve himself in a corner for 10 days. Turned out the captor behind it all was his grandfather. He wanted to straighten him out and my mate was also starting on heavy drugs at the time which he was " cured " of. I remember how heart broken my mate was about 10 years ago when his grandfather passed away well into his 90's. He tells people the story and they say you could have had him locked up and sued him etc. My mate lights up and says "are you stupid? The man saved my life! I'd have wound up some drug stuffed useless POS at best or dead more likley. I owe him my life. " My wife and I are going to visit him next week. He and his Mrs just had their first child and he's over the moon about it. Certainly he's left it till later in life having worked on his career but that child will want for nothing including all the love and attention it can get. Bit of tough love and scaring the hell out of my mate was the best thing for him and he's the first to tell anyone that. Any POS he found in his house would without doubt get the EXACT same treatment. He bought his grandfathers old farm several years back because of the good memories he had there and the one of him being locked in the shed is not something he now looks back on as a terrifying thing (although it was at the time) but rather as the point someone saved his life from turning to ship. |
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| Phil23 Guru Joined: 27/03/2016 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1667 |
Yep, Very specific in the searching & was probably for a hidden key. Uploaded the first 2 camera, all welcome to take a look. Keeping the footage closer locally, too much information that could inspire others. Camera1 Camera2 A few have commented that one is female? Still not 100% sure on that. Yep. Out like a light while they were trying doors. Phil. |
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