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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : HELP needed with Cut/Paste on RPi (PuTTY)
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| WhiteWizzard Guru  Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
What I am wanting to achieve (within Raspbian on a RPi) is to copy code from a .BAS file (which I can open in Text Editor) and Paste it into the MM Editor screen which is displayed in PuTTY (liken this to TeraTerm on a Windows machine). I also want to do the reverse, i.e. copy code from the MM (PuTTY) and paste it into 'Text Editor'. So I have successfully installed PuTTY on a RPi (latest version of Raspbian GUI) and connected up a MM which can be seen/controlled.  BUT I just cannot find a way to copy 'text' between PuTTY and the Text Editor. If anyone out there has the full version of Raspbian installed on their RPi, please can you try and help me! To install PuTTY I simply followed these three steps: 1> sudo apt-get update 2> sudo apt-get upgrade 3> sudo apt-get install putty -y I then hooked up a MicroMite and opened a 'link' to it. All is good at this point. I can copy some text from the built in Text Editor (under the 'Accessories' tab) and Paste it back into Text Editor (confirming it is on the 'clipboard'). However, I just cannot Paste it into PuTTY. For reference, PuTTY installed on a Windows machine does work - default is Right-Click mouse, and the clipboard is pasted into the current cursor position. (This can be adjusted within PuTTY settings to make a Menu appear on Right-Click, to then allow selecting 'Paste' from the subsequent drop-down list). RPi PuTTY has Ctrl+Right-Click to bring up a Menu, from which there is a 'Copy All' option. Upon selecting this, I cannot Paste 'it' into either PuTTY or into Text Editor. Please can someone help!  NOTE: I am needing to use PuTTY rather than another 'app' UNLESS anyone can get either MMEDIT or GFXTERM running on a RPi . . . . |
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disco4now Guru Joined: 18/12/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1003 |
Hi, Link below should be of some use. I have written all my Pi-cromite code in MMEdit and copied to clipboard and pasted directly into the Pi-cromite basic editor using putty. Shift + INS is used to do the paste. (the stand alone INSert key, not the one on the keypad). See this link for an add on the MMEdit that automatically puts the code in the clipboard and adds a few keystrokes to save it and automatically run it when pasted. MMEdit and Pi-cromite PS. Just re-read your post, this may be not what you are after.I read MMEdit when you are talking about the MM editor. Regards Gerry Latest F4 Latest H7 FotS |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
Thanks Gerry. I have just had partial success with Shift + Ins (paste) and Ctrl+Shift (copy). However, it is only pasting in one line (from Text Editor) when I am in the MM's Editor screen (i.e. F4). BUT when in the Command Prompt, it Pastes ALL the lines? |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
Looks like how I copy text from Text Editor (TE) has different results upon pasting into PuTTY. Using Ctrl-C (within TE) will paste only the first line from the clipboard into MM's Editor Using Right-Click and then selecting 'Copy' will take the first line (excluding the last character from the first line) and the second line (excluding the first character from the second line) and make then one line in MM's Editor. It ignores any more lines from the clipboard. So possibly a CR LF issue in both PuTTY and TE.  Will continue to experiment . . . . |
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CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
Hi WW I use Putty all the time on *nix and windows. To copy text from putty, select the text you want by left dragging the mouse which copies it to the clipboard. To paste text into putty, right click in the terminal window (pastes at the cursor, not the mouse pointer). If you want to copy and paste back into a putty window (i.e. to copy an earlier command), left drag and then right click. hth |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
@CaptainBoing On RPi PuTTY, currently the Right-Click simply draws a white highlighted line at the point of the mouse cursor. Nothing appears at the text cursor, and nothing seems to be on the clipboard when LeftClick dragging. Ctrl-C from another app and then Right-Click in PuTTY does nothing either (apart from white highlighted line at cursor position). Is there a Mouse setting somewhere 'deep' in a system file that possibly needs to be modified? (as there is nothing in the PuTTY options) |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
Oh, ok. I sent that last post after testing with (one of several) open putty sessions BUT it is on a windows machine. I don't have access to a linux box just now but will try later. I have copied from/to sessions on linux boxes but now I am questioning how I did it. |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
Thanks CaptainBoing The closest success I have is Ctrl-INS to copy, and Shift-INS to paste. However, in the MM Editors screen (F4 from command prompt), I only get one line inserted. Not sure if Geoff is doing some logic at the CR/LF stage which then prevents the other lines being inserted. This is all part of a new 'TermMite' project I am working on; so to be able to solve this will open up a nice feature for controlling a building full of 'remote' MMs |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6283 |
WW, I think the micromite expect CRLF and you are only sending LF There might be some setting to control the line-endings. I do a lot of cursing when I swap from micromites to Linux boxes when I am using Teraterm. Fortunately, in TT it is easy to change the line-ending setting. Jim VK7JH MMedit |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
Hi Jim, Thanks. I think I can force a CR on an LF so will go try that . . . . |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
to be honest, I don't really use the inbuilt editor for much more than tweaks. My two tools always open are putty & notepad++. All major editing is done in npp the it's ctrl-A, ctrl-C flip to putty, F10 right click and ctrl-Z. Got it down to a few seconds of finger twisting  I like it this way because the running program doesn't just exist in the MM and I have an automatic backup of my work (courtesy of npp) and I have the bare minimum of dependancy on tools... any old editor and any old terminal emulator will do. I am such a dinosaur |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
Just working out what F10 and Ctrl-Z do. I will try NPP (assuming it is available for RPi?) So close; but yet so far . . . . |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
F10 is AUTOSAVE and crtl-z is the end of file char (26?) which finishes autosave and commits the "paste" to flash |
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| robert.rozee Guru Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 2442 |
hi, if you're trying to paste into the internal micromite editor, you'll strike all kinds of grief! the algorithm i use is basically 15mS between characters, and wait for 300mS of silence after sending a <CR>. the editor sends quite a few escape sequences back between keypresses, and i use these to tell if pasting into the editor or not. when dealing with AUTOSAVE, the safest approach is to send out <CR> delimited lines, and wait for the <LF> response coming back. both <CR> and <CR><LF> delimited lines are handled correctly. even <LF> delimited lines are handled, although the echo back to the console isn't right. HOWEVER, i've just discovered that <LF> delimited lines are processed much faster, like 10 seconds to upload a 42k file! my suspicion is a possible bug in the microchip library routine UARTTransmitterIsReady() that is causing it to delay returning ready for far longer than it should. this might be one for peter mather to comment on. cheers, rob :-) |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
@CaptainBoing, anyone The Paste into PuTTY worked as needed; i.e. F10 at command prompt (AUTOSAVE), Shift-Ins (paste), Ctrl-Z (terminate). Now to find a way to 'reverse' this from the micromite EDITor back into Text Editor. You'd think that Copy from EDITor, and Paste would work but it doesn't!  It is as if the PuTTY clipboard is independent of the RPi generic clipboard.I use Ctrl-Ins within PuTTY to put on clipboard (and can confirm it is there by pasting itself (Shift-Ins) back into PuTTY, but using Paste in Text Editor does not work (it just pastes whatever is in the RPi generic clipboard). What I thought would be such an easy thing is turning out really tricky. At least CaptainBoing got me half way there. Anyone out there with any ideas ? . . . |
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| disco4now Guru Joined: 18/12/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1003 |
Do you do a LIST ALL to see the whole code and then copy that? What is the editor you are using and does the RPi use a mouse? Latest F4 Latest H7 FotS |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
If I need to snag the program from a mite, I do it again with putty by setting the scroll back to something big (3000 lines), clearing everything (Window menu > All Clear Function) then doing a LIST ALL, copy it (Window menu > Copy All to Clipboard) then paste into my favourite editor (notepad++) and remove the fluff top n bottom. hth |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
Small programs I was trying to Copy from the micromite's EDITor. However, larger programs I was copying from LIST ALL at command prompt. But because neither was actually appearing to be Copying onto the clipboard, I was focussed on just getting a small program going first from within the EDITor. Editor on RPi is the Raspbian built in Text Editor (under 'Accessories' menu). RPi has a mouse (actually a TrackPad on a Logitech K400+ keyboard). |
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| WhiteWizzard Guru Joined: 05/04/2013 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2944 |
@CaptainBoing This just isn't working on a RPi. Just does not go onto the 'generic' clipboard. Its as if PuTTY's clipboard is unique to itself on a RPi Would you be able to try on a RPi to make sure it is not me going mad!! WW |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2170 |
sorry WW, I don't have a RPi - never went down that route. This is an old post but it seems you are not alone https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=117438 |
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