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| Tinine Guru  Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
I guess Jules Verne didn't anticipate such greed. |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Bob Boyce started out not caring about efficiency....he just wanted to win boat races. He converted his boats to run on hydrogen...produced on demand. One of the two boats, at a particular RPM would suddenly get a huge burst of power which he couldn't explain. Back at the shop, he discovered a bad diode in the alternator's rectifier and therefore, an AC signal was being superimposed on the DC circuit which resulted in a huge increase in hydrogen production. He decided to research this further and ended up using a microcontroller (Great Cow BASIC) to generate these AC signals. Bob also met an untimely death. Bob Boyce |
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Chopperp Guru Joined: 03/01/2018 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1032 |
I know what you mean with the beeps. I had a drive from Toowoomba to BNE airport & back last year with a friend in a Forester. Drove me crazy with all the beeps etc. Another friend has a Disco & he has most of this stuff turned off. Much more pleasant driving in that vehicle expect when he tried talking out loud to his phone to try to dial someone. No warning given. (Mind you, this vehicle has a million buttons & switches as well). My 11 YO X-Trail has nothing like that. Brian Edited 2020-01-06 10:12 by Chopperp ChopperP |
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| BrianP Senior Member  Joined: 30/03/2017 Location: AustraliaPosts: 292 |
It seems I've really stirred the pot... Nice to able to vent our frustrations - now we can focus on our 'Mites  B |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3015 |
Who knows--maybe Jules Verne will yet be proven correct, but if so, it will likely be because energy is created otherwise (produced, transformed) and used to generate hydrogen. Bob Boyce--"Free Energy -- the secret they can't kill." Exactly who are "they", and why aren't there plenty of other "theys" who'd like the fame and riches that would come from "free energy"--perhaps some of them rich enough already to make themselves secure against the nefarious Theys. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of rich people who want to become richer. PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1985 |
you can add this to the mix also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfILTM_xcOE rather less crank more mainstream. Texaco acquired the rights (and patents) to NiMH batteries from GM but licensed them specifically so they could only be manufactured in small capacities - this is recorded fact. A logical extraction from that is; it was to prevent the discontinuation of oil products as fuel in a car by preventing anyone making a NiMH battery big enough to power one (@12:00) is fairly honest and straightforward. Why else would they do that? For the same reason YOU would if you were Texaco. Protecting your investment... just follow the money! Oil companies for one. "They" have enormous investment in getting oil out of the ground and they are in no hurry to set that aside for the altruistic betterment of mankind. They'll continue selling Oil until it is gone, escalating the price in inverse proportion to its availability (standard market force) then swoop to mankind's salvation with a new invention that uses something else, but there will be a price to pay! That's right I said it and the stock market figures prove why the oil companies have all the incentive they need to do it. Watch that video above. So the idea of big corp strangling tech babies in the crib to protect their market - totally believable. The problem with all the over-unity thing is the "I want to believe" crowd will lie to aid their pet theory... Search youtube for "unlimited energy" and you'll be snowed under with vids of some crap with spinning magnets and a spark plug connected to a mains power strip etc... The "scene" is poisoned by bullsh*tters that do it for the clicks. Edited 2020-01-06 20:54 by CaptainBoing |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Water, as a source of fuel, tends to be lumped into the over-unity thing but it isn't. It's still a fuel. Tank runs dry and you grind to a halt. |
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Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
WWBMD? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRyELKGLGag  Venting frustrations is just like farting into the wind! This is what I meant for keeping our own homeostasis, the question is if talking can be constructive at least showing new possibilities in any way. ... and ya man nowadays BM would not push any "wood" rather than a micromite!  Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
U.S. Navy using seawater for fuel. Can anyone make sense of the statement: |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
In my opinion he just says that this kind of making fuel is technically possible but it completely is not energy efficient! That means to get a result you have to invest more pure energy than this fuel will deliver later on. So this cannot be a basic solution for our decreasing fuel situation. Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Can you imagine..."Yeah we're gonna take all this energy out to sea and use it to make less energy for ourselves". To me, it's about not trying to hide the fact that they are using water for energy and spreading disinformation about its viability elsewhere. |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Maybe I misunderstood that they were processing whilst at sea??? |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
I donīt know if I get you right!?! About "not trying to hide", they claim to do so, so I donīt understand what they are supposed to be hiding about that general issue.  Or do you just mean that point as the basis of their "disinformation"? I am not quite sure if this really is disinformation, but letīs see: First we donīt know where this exactly comes from, as there is a reporter in between, but if we just take it literally then these statements get highlighted for me: 1) "calling it a potentially revolutionary advancement." 2) "The system could potentially shave hours off the at-sea refueling process and eliminate time spent away from missions. " 3) "The NRL projects the new fueling system could be commercially viable in less than 10 years and could produce jet fuel that costs $3-6 dollars per gallon." I think the major point is No 2, for being just exclusively positive for Navy issues and from this point of view No 1 can make sense! The big questioning has to be done about No 3, first they do not claim to solve all energy problems, they are just talking about the No 2 issue, so what the columnist does is just some further thinking, but actually not a part of this report. I think this really is no disinformation, it is just bad information for being stupidly superficial, too many facts are missing for real interpretation. Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
Thatīs what I understood, that they do so! Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
Some day I wanna grab a cheapie generator and try this simplified approach. |
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| lizby Guru Joined: 17/05/2016 Location: United StatesPosts: 3015 |
Acquire to kill--I certainly believe that happens. But that's not what is meant by "over unity" in the case of hydrolysis or the like. "Useful output energy greater than input energy" doesn't imply that the fuel is never exhausted. (Unlike with some assertions regarding "free energy".) I readily admit that the oil companies act to try to prevent the stranding of their resources, both through propaganda and more active means, but I don't think that, for instance, the resource-strained Chinese would feel constrained by intellectual property concerns if they felt there were a way to generate the energy they needed without burning coal or buying oil. And I think they (and others) would actively persue any methods that their scientists thought were remotely possible. Seems easy enough to try. Edited 2020-01-07 05:53 by lizby PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed |
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| Tinine Guru Joined: 30/03/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1646 |
There is no getting more out than putting in; hydrogen is way more combustible than gasoline. As for China, etc., I can also see the potential negative aspects of every Joe Blow having access to unlimited free energy. I mean who wouldn't want a 5,000BHP car and consider weaponry, etc. |
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| Poppy Guru Joined: 25/07/2019 Location: GermanyPosts: 486 |
We have to differ between "Free Energy" the disinfomative religion and real free energy like solar, wind and water. It is a matter of calculation! Energy will not vanish it just gets transformed, so if we get more solar power for example then we could dissipate more for further transformation, but I guess we even cannot evaluate all side-effects and ancillary issues at least for now. Andre ... such a GURU? | ||||
| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3659 |
But the energy input is still greater than the energy produced. So in some circumstances it might be worth doing but generally it would not be. The navy case might be one - maybe they can use a fat cable to recharge a vessel very quickly then get back to doing whatever that vessel is wanted for. (Lots of maybes, but overall it might perhaps make "sense" if you think like the navy may.) However, clearly would be a non-starter as a generally useful everyday thing. Or has someone proven the Laws of Thermodynamics are wrong? Worth at least one Nobel prize! John |
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| CaptainBoing Guru Joined: 07/09/2016 Location: United KingdomPosts: 1985 |
This is where I sit. I know there is quite a "scene" in the USA for splitting water into H & O as an additive to vehicle engines *as a supplement* dropped into the air intake on a (generally) standard setup and there are guys who can demonstrate big power increases. I'm just not ready to set aside thermodynamics just yet. Happy to be proved wrong but I just can't believe it to be possible with what has been so well documented. In my gut I still feel someone has got their sums wrong. |
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